Vit Muller: 00:00:04

Good, everybody, Welcome back to another episode

Vit Muller: 00:00:05

on High Level Experience podcast.

Vit Muller: 00:00:07

I'm super pumped for today's episode because we've got someone joining

Vit Muller: 00:00:10

us who's doing some seriously cool things in the high level space.

Vit Muller: 00:00:14

you probably know her from woman of GHL Grow Flow SaaS or her

Vit Muller: 00:00:18

agency work with L’Estrange Digital Marketing over in New Zealand.

Vit Muller: 00:00:22

She's been making moves not just building businesses, but building community and

Vit Muller: 00:00:28

really leading the way for more women stepping into the tech and SaaS world.

Vit Muller: 00:00:33

We're going to dig into her journey, the lessons she's learned, and some of the

Vit Muller: 00:00:38

tools and tactics she's using right now.

Vit Muller: 00:00:41

Let's get into it.

Vit Muller: 00:00:42

Please welcome to the show, Kristine L’Estrange

Vit Muller: 00:00:49

Kristine L’Estrange: hi.

Vit Muller: 00:00:50

Thanks so much for having me, Vic.

Vit Muller: 00:00:51

Wonderful to be here.

Vit Muller: 00:00:54

Yeah, great to, great to have you, Kristine.

Vit Muller: 00:00:56

I know we, we caught up in Sydney at, SaaSpreneur, which was nice.

Vit Muller: 00:01:00

I don't think I've met you before the Sydney, so it's just, just to show

Vit Muller: 00:01:04

there's so many amazing people that I still haven't met, and, yeah, it's nice.

Vit Muller: 00:01:09

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:01:10

it was great to have time with you in Sydney for sure.

Vit Muller: 00:01:13

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:01:14

so Kristine, what, what's been your journey to, into high level?

Vit Muller: 00:01:17

Like, what can you, can you give us a bit of a backstory?

Vit Muller: 00:01:21

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, sure.

Vit Muller: 00:01:22

so I was living over by you in Canberra.

Vit Muller: 00:01:25

that's my hometown and where Vit is living right now.

Vit Muller: 00:01:29

and I was working financial planning.

Vit Muller: 00:01:32

I was there working for about 10 years and, the heartstrings pulled over.

Vit Muller: 00:01:37

COVID.

Vit Muller: 00:01:37

my husband is a Kiwi and we used to get back really often, you know,

Vit Muller: 00:01:41

every, probably not twice a year, but twice every 18 months or so.

Vit Muller: 00:01:45

And of course we were completely locked out of New Zealand, over COVID.

Vit Muller: 00:01:48

And so heartstrings were really pulling and we made the decision as a family.

Vit Muller: 00:01:53

soon as, Jacinda Ardern, the Prime Minister of New Zealand, opened

Vit Muller: 00:01:55

the doors to the rest of the world.

Vit Muller: 00:01:57

New Zealand was very shut off during the Pandemic and they had almost no COVID

Vit Muller: 00:02:01

that we would, get straight back in.

Vit Muller: 00:02:03

So we got the family together.

Vit Muller: 00:02:05

my husband said, to his employer, I'm off.

Vit Muller: 00:02:08

Like, do what you like.

Vit Muller: 00:02:09

And they decided to make a new role for him remotely, which was fantastic.

Vit Muller: 00:02:13

And he's still in that job, I think 17 years or something like that.

Vit Muller: 00:02:17

and over to New Zealand became, and at the time I looked at applying for comparable

Vit Muller: 00:02:23

roles to what I was doing over in Canberra and realized that I was gonna get paid

Vit Muller: 00:02:28

half what I was in Canberra, and also be new in a new, new job, having to, you

Vit Muller: 00:02:34

know, earn my right for work from home privileges and those sorts of things

Vit Muller: 00:02:38

that I'd really enjoyed having, from a very supportive employers in Canberra.

Vit Muller: 00:02:43

And yeah, I thought there has to be another way.

Vit Muller: 00:02:45

There has to be another way.

Vit Muller: 00:02:46

My children were in preschool at the time as well too, so quite a demanding

Vit Muller: 00:02:50

time when you've got like half days, early those sorts of things too.

Vit Muller: 00:02:54

The worst time to be moving really.

Vit Muller: 00:02:57

and so I did a, short Facebook ads course.

Vit Muller: 00:03:02

and I started running Facebook ads for people here locally.

Vit Muller: 00:03:05

and then as part of that I realized very quickly that to run successful

Vit Muller: 00:03:10

Facebook ads, we need good systems.

Vit Muller: 00:03:14

and then at the time, back in the olden days, four years ago or something like

Vit Muller: 00:03:18

that, I thought there has to be an answer to this problem and I cannot be the

Vit Muller: 00:03:22

only person on the planet that saw this.

Vit Muller: 00:03:24

And of course I wasn't.

Vit Muller: 00:03:26

and I found Groove Funnels, and I thought perhaps this is my answer.

Vit Muller: 00:03:29

Lifetime, lifetime buy license.

Vit Muller: 00:03:33

and it was pretty clunky.

Vit Muller: 00:03:34

I don't love it.

Vit Muller: 00:03:34

I think some people from time to time I hair are still on it.

Vit Muller: 00:03:37

I think it's still around, but it wasn't my jam.

Vit Muller: 00:03:40

and then of course I trialed ClickFunnels.

Vit Muller: 00:03:42

and then I found GHL or GHL found me probably, in a Facebook ad, no doubt.

Vit Muller: 00:03:48

And I thought this has to be a scam.

Vit Muller: 00:03:51

This, this can't be real.

Vit Muller: 00:03:53

This can't be the solution to all of my problems at this $97 price point, which

Vit Muller: 00:03:57

was still the price four years ago.

Vit Muller: 00:03:58

They've not raised their prices since.

Vit Muller: 00:04:01

and you know, that brings us, I guess, to hear where we are today.

Vit Muller: 00:04:04

you know, I quickly loved GHL, got all my clients on it and really drilled into

Vit Muller: 00:04:10

it as a system just like I did with my financial planning software, I guess.

Vit Muller: 00:04:15

and then did the certification in early 2024 when they, brought it out.

Vit Muller: 00:04:20

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:04:21

Nice.

Vit Muller: 00:04:22

So the main thing I'm getting from this is family is everything you realize,

Vit Muller: 00:04:30

you know, your husband's family in New Zealand, you were missing them and

Vit Muller: 00:04:33

that's why you moved back over there.

Vit Muller: 00:04:37

We're actually going through something similar right now where we were living

Vit Muller: 00:04:41

in Czech Republic for two and a half years after being, you know, in Australia

Vit Muller: 00:04:46

for, when did we leave at 12 years?

Vit Muller: 00:04:49

and now we're realizing we are actually gonna go back 'cause

Vit Muller: 00:04:52

we don't have a family here.

Vit Muller: 00:04:54

And it's something, it's interesting when you, once you have children

Vit Muller: 00:04:59

and all that, it's just, you just realize more and more how important

Vit Muller: 00:05:02

it's to be close to your family.

Vit Muller: 00:05:03

So I can totally relate, to what you, what you're saying and, you

Vit Muller: 00:05:07

know, being stuck here, especially COVID just highlights it, right?

Vit Muller: 00:05:10

Kristine L’Estrange: That's right.

Vit Muller: 00:05:11

But look, to be fair, I do really miss my family in Canberra as well.

Vit Muller: 00:05:15

right.

Vit Muller: 00:05:16

Yes.

Vit Muller: 00:05:16

Of course it's, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:05:19

Well, at

Vit Muller: 00:05:19

Kristine L’Estrange: I don't want them to listen think.

Vit Muller: 00:05:20

I don't just love them.

Vit Muller: 00:05:22

But yeah, we're a lot closer than, Czech Republic, which is a good thing.

Vit Muller: 00:05:25

And I was able to spend some time with them after SaaSpreneur in

Vit Muller: 00:05:27

Sydney too, which is really good.

Vit Muller: 00:05:30

And, and I do have lots of clients in in Australia and, and, and

Vit Muller: 00:05:33

Canberra as well, which is great.

Vit Muller: 00:05:35

So the more I get over the better.

Vit Muller: 00:05:39

I didn't quite get that transition.

Vit Muller: 00:05:41

maybe I missed it, but, so you were in financial planning in

Vit Muller: 00:05:43

Canberra, working for somebody, and you transitioned into running ads.

Vit Muller: 00:05:47

What was that?

Vit Muller: 00:05:48

what's the segue from that?

Vit Muller: 00:05:50

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:05:50

So, I guess a lot of the time in my financial planning job, we were

Vit Muller: 00:05:55

investing people's money and then to do that we'd need to, Review into

Vit Muller: 00:06:00

valuation of different shares and managed funds and things like that.

Vit Muller: 00:06:04

So I was always thinking about the future growth of businesses and in

Vit Muller: 00:06:09

that, in that role, it was publicly listed companies that I, and I quickly

Vit Muller: 00:06:14

knew that, you know, putting out a new division and putting a half decent

Vit Muller: 00:06:18

management team in it and a little bit of money into marketing was absolutely

Vit Muller: 00:06:23

the answer to increasing the value of the company, increasing the dividend

Vit Muller: 00:06:27

or the, the revenue that was coming in.

Vit Muller: 00:06:30

And I noted by pouring over annual reports and all that sort of thing

Vit Muller: 00:06:35

of publicly listed companies, how, they would plan their growth.

Vit Muller: 00:06:39

and then we'd, you know, read through and put investors money into it and bill for

Vit Muller: 00:06:44

their retirement and things like that.

Vit Muller: 00:06:46

And so I thought, oh, how does smaller businesses that you know aren't publicly

Vit Muller: 00:06:51

listed, how do they plan their growth?

Vit Muller: 00:06:54

Do they do it the same way?

Vit Muller: 00:06:55

And I quickly realized that it's sort of not quite the same when it's just like

Vit Muller: 00:06:59

mom and dad, smaller businesses, with their own money and their own, their

Vit Muller: 00:07:03

own business plans and things like that.

Vit Muller: 00:07:05

And that, I could potentially take those same skills that I had in finance

Vit Muller: 00:07:09

and apply them to consulting to small businesses, for their marketing, which I.

Vit Muller: 00:07:14

really believe marketing is like the, the lightning bolt to business growth.

Vit Muller: 00:07:19

So you kind of inject it and then, then you see it really does give a great

Vit Muller: 00:07:23

return and give people the opportunity to build their businesses in line

Vit Muller: 00:07:27

with their desires and their growth.

Vit Muller: 00:07:29

so Yeah, really passionate about that sort of stuff.

Vit Muller: 00:07:33

yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:07:34

yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:07:34

No, there's something special working with a small business owners, even though

Vit Muller: 00:07:37

they don't have as big of a budget, it's, you get to really like, help

Vit Muller: 00:07:44

them out, like with things that they.

Vit Muller: 00:07:46

Previously wouldn't have access to.

Vit Muller: 00:07:47

Right.

Vit Muller: 00:07:48

Expensive software, HubSpot, Salesforce, all those.

Vit Muller: 00:07:50

It's, it's amazing what GHL has given us as an opportunity, to be able

Vit Muller: 00:07:54

to, to go out to local, small, local businesses who, you know, that's,

Vit Muller: 00:08:00

you know, it's, it's tough, right?

Vit Muller: 00:08:01

it, we can go and we can offer them this service.

Vit Muller: 00:08:04

We can show them a couple of little low hanging fruits to get

Vit Muller: 00:08:08

their business moving faster.

Vit Muller: 00:08:10

what have you found, when it comes to that initial like offering when you go

Vit Muller: 00:08:14

out to local businesses, and I don't know, what if you got like a specific

Vit Muller: 00:08:17

niche or you go after like multiple markets, but, what have you found being

Vit Muller: 00:08:22

the most like effective in that first set of 30 days when working with clients?

Vit Muller: 00:08:26

Kristine L’Estrange: like helping them have a smooth onboarding so

Vit Muller: 00:08:29

that they feel confident, using the system, moving around, making

Vit Muller: 00:08:32

sure everything is connected.

Vit Muller: 00:08:33

I really am passionate about trying to sit down and map out with them where

Vit Muller: 00:08:39

all their leads or their inquiries, are coming from and try to get it all into

Vit Muller: 00:08:44

the software so that it's less like, sort of fragmented and really becomes

Vit Muller: 00:08:48

the central hub for their business.

Vit Muller: 00:08:50

So as an example, like everybody gets, like referrals and things

Vit Muller: 00:08:55

like that via just regular email.

Vit Muller: 00:08:57

Making sure that those are synced into the CRM and built into

Vit Muller: 00:09:01

the, pipelines opportunities and stuff for them is really helpful.

Vit Muller: 00:09:04

Rather than having it like off over here doing its own thing, it, it brings it

Vit Muller: 00:09:09

all together when we do that really well.

Vit Muller: 00:09:10

So that's, yeah, that's one thing that I'm passionate about the in getting

Vit Muller: 00:09:14

happening in the first 30 days.

Vit Muller: 00:09:16

So adoption is key, and learning how, like how best to

Vit Muller: 00:09:21

onboard the clients in what order, what sequence, and what volume right.

Vit Muller: 00:09:26

Is critical because maybe we can talk about our, our own experiences and the

Vit Muller: 00:09:32

learning curve with this, if that's okay.

Vit Muller: 00:09:35

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah,

Vit Muller: 00:09:35

I know, I know that like, I don't know about you, but like when

Vit Muller: 00:09:38

I, When I discovered high level before then, I was always like into this, you

Vit Muller: 00:09:43

know, Zapier and different software and was using currently and trying to

Vit Muller: 00:09:47

know, connect it with other things.

Vit Muller: 00:09:49

And I'm a nerd, right?

Vit Muller: 00:09:51

And I, I had my own business, up until then.

Vit Muller: 00:09:53

So that was sort like more for my own business use case.

Vit Muller: 00:09:55

But the moment I discovered high level, I was like, wow.

Vit Muller: 00:09:58

And I went all in and I'm, and I'm excited about every single feature, but that's not

Vit Muller: 00:10:02

the case for more small business owners.

Vit Muller: 00:10:05

They just see that and it's like, that's just, yeah, I did.

Vit Muller: 00:10:08

Yeah, I, I'm overwhelmed.

Vit Muller: 00:10:11

So trying to, trying to, figure out, you know, like initially

Vit Muller: 00:10:15

I'd be so excited and I.

Vit Muller: 00:10:17

You know, get on the calls of customers and like, I would have this urge to

Vit Muller: 00:10:21

like, kinda like, Hey, let me show you all this, this, this, this, this.

Vit Muller: 00:10:23

And like, you know, and I'm like so excited presenting all that.

Vit Muller: 00:10:27

But then you stop talking and then the client goes, you know, you look

Vit Muller: 00:10:31

at them and you can see that they're looking like, a deer in the headlights.

Vit Muller: 00:10:35

So, what

Vit Muller: 00:10:36

Kristine L’Estrange: for

Vit Muller: 00:10:36

have you, what have, what's, what's been your learning curve like.

Vit Muller: 00:10:39

Kristine L’Estrange: well, you know, I think it's just really important to

Vit Muller: 00:10:41

speak to the businesses themselves and ask them what they do in their business.

Vit Muller: 00:10:46

What problems do they have?

Vit Muller: 00:10:47

How do we solve them for them?

Vit Muller: 00:10:49

They don't need to go through every feature.

Vit Muller: 00:10:51

In fact, it's, as you said, like.

Vit Muller: 00:10:53

so overwhelming if they do look at all of it.

Vit Muller: 00:10:55

but Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:10:55

what's some tiny things that we can automate that would make

Vit Muller: 00:10:58

a huge difference for them?

Vit Muller: 00:11:00

You know, how do their customers come in?

Vit Muller: 00:11:02

Let's talk to them.

Vit Muller: 00:11:03

What do they do when they get an inquiry?

Vit Muller: 00:11:06

Do they do a quote?

Vit Muller: 00:11:07

Do they do a proposal?

Vit Muller: 00:11:09

You know, those types of things.

Vit Muller: 00:11:11

and then how do we support them by stepping through those things

Vit Muller: 00:11:14

without doing everything all at once?

Vit Muller: 00:11:16

Even though it would be wonderful to deliver an enormous system, it's

Vit Muller: 00:11:20

sort of, you know, the reasons you spoke about it doesn't work well.

Vit Muller: 00:11:23

We just do, you know, step it out so we can see how we can support them in their

Vit Muller: 00:11:27

business because, one thing I know for sure is that they don't have sort of like

Vit Muller: 00:11:31

25 hours of build time a week to take them away from their busy business, you

Vit Muller: 00:11:37

know, to, to make happen in a software.

Vit Muller: 00:11:40

But if we can just drop, you know, a few things in that free up some

Vit Muller: 00:11:43

time for them, that's gonna be your really good wins, in the short term.

Vit Muller: 00:11:48

And over time we build more and more and that compounds, right?

Vit Muller: 00:11:52

so yeah, I think, you know.

Vit Muller: 00:11:54

Thinking about implementation maybe like over a year or something is

Vit Muller: 00:11:57

like a good way to think about it.

Vit Muller: 00:12:00

because going, trying to go all in when the first, like 30 days is just too much

Vit Muller: 00:12:06

for everyone on, on all sides, right?

Vit Muller: 00:12:08

Mm-hmm.

Vit Muller: 00:12:10

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:12:11

I also wonder if there is, if there's an opportunity for

Vit Muller: 00:12:14

like, the customized journey.

Vit Muller: 00:12:15

So like, Like for small local businesses.

Vit Muller: 00:12:18

Okay, so reputation management, super low hanging fruit, very easy to implement and

Vit Muller: 00:12:23

show and get the client, realize the value real quickly on that social planner blog,

Vit Muller: 00:12:30

doing newsletters, those little things.

Vit Muller: 00:12:31

Chat with Jet and all that.

Vit Muller: 00:12:33

But I wonder, even though we know that this is what, and this is

Vit Muller: 00:12:36

generally how we start as well with most of our customers, we start

Vit Muller: 00:12:39

with those out of the box features.

Vit Muller: 00:12:41

I wonder if there is a way, if there is a room for a scope, for like a custom

Vit Muller: 00:12:48

journey as, I mean it's, it's something I've been thinking about, just on our end.

Vit Muller: 00:12:53

Like how can we customize what we go through and show that client first as

Vit Muller: 00:13:00

opposed to more of a vulnerable approach.

Vit Muller: 00:13:03

have you thought about that?

Vit Muller: 00:13:04

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:13:05

I mean, I guess thinking about like onboarding and getting that really,

Vit Muller: 00:13:08

really tight is something that is really, you know, an amazing thing

Vit Muller: 00:13:13

to do and really worthwhile nailing.

Vit Muller: 00:13:15

I'd say, you know, we are not, we're not a hundred percent there yet in our business.

Vit Muller: 00:13:20

we are going through like a period of really high growth as well.

Vit Muller: 00:13:24

so that, that gets tricky to put time away to refine those things.

Vit Muller: 00:13:28

But I think that you don't build the Taj Mahal in a day, so to speak.

Vit Muller: 00:13:34

You tick it off.

Vit Muller: 00:13:35

Piece by piece, brick by brick every day moving forward.

Vit Muller: 00:13:39

So yeah, that's definitely something that I aspire to doing is getting that

Vit Muller: 00:13:43

really, really well oiled onboarding.

Vit Muller: 00:13:46

and we will get there.

Vit Muller: 00:13:47

But yeah, like our SOPs are starting to come together nicely.

Vit Muller: 00:13:50

I'm really happy about that.

Vit Muller: 00:13:52

Certainly our onboarding checklist is, working really well in our business.

Vit Muller: 00:13:56

and yeah, every day stronger, right?

Vit Muller: 00:13:58

Just to optimize over time.

Vit Muller: 00:14:00

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:14:01

Now you mentioned at the beginning it was the ads and like I seen that as

Vit Muller: 00:14:05

a vehicle to help small businesses.

Vit Muller: 00:14:07

and then you discovered high level.

Vit Muller: 00:14:09

So does that mean that you started more on that service side initially

Vit Muller: 00:14:12

with ads and, and are you still more on that as a first go to market

Vit Muller: 00:14:19

offer, or are you more SaaS now?

Vit Muller: 00:14:22

Kristine L’Estrange: well we do still run a lot of ads and socials and things

Vit Muller: 00:14:25

like that, and we have standalone users of our software as well.

Vit Muller: 00:14:29

It's really a big mix actually, and just really based on what the, client needs.

Vit Muller: 00:14:34

We have our packages and stuff, but really depends on what the

Vit Muller: 00:14:37

person is interested in pursuing in their business at that time.

Vit Muller: 00:14:41

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:14:42

Excellent.

Vit Muller: 00:14:43

Now let's talk about that.

Vit Muller: 00:14:46

you've got quite impressive initiative that you've, put together for all the

Vit Muller: 00:14:50

women out there that are using high level.

Vit Muller: 00:14:52

how did that come about?

Vit Muller: 00:14:54

Kristine L’Estrange: well back, last year actually.

Vit Muller: 00:14:57

I, well actually first of all, I started a couple of years ago, the group for

Vit Muller: 00:15:03

New Zealand users of, go how level.

Vit Muller: 00:15:06

So, we've got a little bit of a unique situation over in the, New Zealand.

Vit Muller: 00:15:10

We can't, for example, send, text messages and things like that natively.

Vit Muller: 00:15:14

heard that.

Vit Muller: 00:15:14

Yeah, that's, wow.

Vit Muller: 00:15:15

That would be frustrating.

Vit Muller: 00:15:16

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah, so it's a huge problem every New Zealand user figures.

Vit Muller: 00:15:20

So I thought we need to, we need to fix that and talk about it as a community.

Vit Muller: 00:15:24

And so I started that community a couple of years ago and it's really lovely space.

Vit Muller: 00:15:29

I'm really enjoying it.

Vit Muller: 00:15:30

and it's a, it's a great, group with a couple of hundred people in there now, I

Vit Muller: 00:15:34

think, which is epic for a country of, 4 million people with go high level, users.

Vit Muller: 00:15:39

And then I was in lots of different Facebook groups

Vit Muller: 00:15:43

and I thought, you know what?

Vit Muller: 00:15:46

Surely there's a space for women and I need to be in that space,

Vit Muller: 00:15:49

because we find like a lot of tech bro convo in the main group.

Vit Muller: 00:15:55

yeah, no offense, to you Vit, I've always, loved your convos.

Vit Muller: 00:15:58

so it's certainly not, putting a spotlight on you there or anything like that.

Vit Muller: 00:16:01

But, it felt like it would make sense for us to have like a space

Vit Muller: 00:16:04

for women, a group for women.

Vit Muller: 00:16:06

and so I searched and at the time I couldn't find any communities

Vit Muller: 00:16:10

for women users of go high level.

Vit Muller: 00:16:12

And it just absolutely blew my mind that there was nothing out there

Vit Muller: 00:16:16

because of course there's like hundreds of thousands of communities

Vit Muller: 00:16:19

for different types of GHL users.

Vit Muller: 00:16:21

So I thought, I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna make a special space,

Vit Muller: 00:16:25

which is just for us women together.

Vit Muller: 00:16:27

absolutely no Mansplaining.

Vit Muller: 00:16:30

Mansplaining.

Vit Muller: 00:16:31

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:16:31

I actually, I actually had to Google that term.

Vit Muller: 00:16:33

I was like, what does that mean?

Vit Muller: 00:16:34

Mansplaining?

Vit Muller: 00:16:36

Kristine L’Estrange: oh

Vit Muller: 00:16:36

I found, I found a school little diagram, this

Vit Muller: 00:16:38

chart, like, did she ask you this?

Vit Muller: 00:16:41

How did you respond?

Vit Muller: 00:16:41

Did you say this?

Vit Muller: 00:16:42

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:16:42

You're mansplaining.

Vit Muller: 00:16:45

Kristine L’Estrange: It's a good one to print out.

Vit Muller: 00:16:47

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:16:48

Kristine L’Estrange: Just kidding.

Vit Muller: 00:16:48

but Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:16:49

look, you know, we're all juggling like a million emotions.

Vit Muller: 00:16:54

we cry a lot more than men.

Vit Muller: 00:16:56

I don't think I've actually cried from anything that I've read in the main high

Vit Muller: 00:17:00

level group, but I have thought about it.

Vit Muller: 00:17:02

so women of GHL was born, right?

Vit Muller: 00:17:05

a special space for all of us women to, come together And with the common thing

Vit Muller: 00:17:09

being that we're all, building businesses around high level, whether it be that

Vit Muller: 00:17:14

we are marketing agencies like myself or SaaSpreneurs, or if we're just like local

Vit Muller: 00:17:19

businesses or if we're like a marketing manager of a medium sized company,

Vit Muller: 00:17:23

there's lots of different women in there.

Vit Muller: 00:17:25

all of us using the software.

Vit Muller: 00:17:28

And juggling life, juggling kids being, you know, being mothers.

Vit Muller: 00:17:32

I've got, you know, I've got all the respect for all you women.

Vit Muller: 00:17:34

I know it's tough.

Vit Muller: 00:17:36

I can't imagine, what it must be like, to, you know, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:17:40

It's, it's uniqueness, right?

Vit Muller: 00:17:42

If,

Vit Muller: 00:17:42

Kristine L’Estrange: Many of us are parents, as you said, often a lot

Vit Muller: 00:17:45

of us have a lot of laundry, to do.

Vit Muller: 00:17:48

and that weighs on us for sure.

Vit Muller: 00:17:50

So all those sorts of things bring us together, which is really nice.

Vit Muller: 00:17:54

how big is the group now?

Vit Muller: 00:17:56

Kristine L’Estrange: we have I think about 720.

Vit Muller: 00:18:00

And so hopefully by the time this airs, we'll be at like a thousand.

Vit Muller: 00:18:05

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:18:05

Yeah, I'm sure.

Vit Muller: 00:18:06

I'm sure there's, we have, female listeners listening.

Vit Muller: 00:18:08

And this should be attractive opportunity.

Vit Muller: 00:18:10

so what, what's the, what do, what do you guys do?

Vit Muller: 00:18:13

like, webinars.

Vit Muller: 00:18:14

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:18:14

Hangouts Weekly.

Vit Muller: 00:18:15

Hangouts, zoom things.

Vit Muller: 00:18:17

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, so I'm sure there's a lot of fomo

Vit Muller: 00:18:18

going on over on your side, mate.

Vit Muller: 00:18:21

But, we have weekly accountability calls, on a Monday, Monday, Australia,

Vit Muller: 00:18:25

New Zealand, Sunday, us, uk, Asia.

Vit Muller: 00:18:29

and that's a one hour call where instead of, we find that we often get bogged down

Vit Muller: 00:18:35

in our businesses with our client work.

Vit Muller: 00:18:37

And sometimes that means putting our own work to the side and we wanna

Vit Muller: 00:18:42

like, bring that back up to the spotlight so we make sure that our

Vit Muller: 00:18:45

own businesses are moving forward.

Vit Muller: 00:18:48

and we're building businesses, of our own, you know, and moving forward

Vit Muller: 00:18:52

with our goals for our businesses and our life, which are intertwined.

Vit Muller: 00:18:57

So that's what that call's all about.

Vit Muller: 00:18:58

and that's been really fabulous.

Vit Muller: 00:19:00

We've had that running for probably a couple of months now.

Vit Muller: 00:19:03

Still pretty new.

Vit Muller: 00:19:04

but yeah, uptake's been great.

Vit Muller: 00:19:06

So I imagine that that's gonna keep continuing.

Vit Muller: 00:19:09

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:19:10

Excellent.

Vit Muller: 00:19:11

Now, if somebody wanted to find this group, where did they go?

Vit Muller: 00:19:14

Kristine L’Estrange: just search women of go high level, in Facebook and

Vit Muller: 00:19:17

that'll, that'll get you over there and, I can share the link with you too.

Vit Muller: 00:19:22

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:19:23

Yeah, I'll definitely put it in the show notes for the guys listening.

Vit Muller: 00:19:25

so, Kristine, you've got a lot on your plate.

Vit Muller: 00:19:27

You're running your agency, you're running this community.

Vit Muller: 00:19:31

How do you balance these ventures and like what role does automation

Vit Muller: 00:19:34

play in managing all this?

Vit Muller: 00:19:36

Kristine L’Estrange: Well, yeah, we've got lots of, many, many hats on over here.

Vit Muller: 00:19:40

We've also got, five amazing human team members behind the

Vit Muller: 00:19:45

scenes who are incredible.

Vit Muller: 00:19:47

we've got, you know, partners and joint ventures that all help.

Vit Muller: 00:19:52

and we've got AI.

Vit Muller: 00:19:55

Which is fabulous too, that we leverage at any opportunity, like to my, to think

Vit Muller: 00:20:00

of myself as really AI forward, and any way that we can automate, we, we try to.

Vit Muller: 00:20:05

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:20:06

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:20:07

Do you have like a specific one that, that you wanna share?

Vit Muller: 00:20:09

I know like with Facebook groups, for example, you can automate and

Vit Muller: 00:20:13

collect people to put them in a CRM and, you know, automate a bit of

Vit Muller: 00:20:16

an onboarding with Facebook groups.

Vit Muller: 00:20:18

I don't know if you do that, but do you have a specific one that it's

Vit Muller: 00:20:21

particularly like peculiar that, that you've built that you wanna share?

Vit Muller: 00:20:25

That if you wanna share.

Vit Muller: 00:20:27

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, sure.

Vit Muller: 00:20:27

So, we have, we heavily use chat GPT and we love that we're starting to get, into

Vit Muller: 00:20:32

building agents in Mind Pal as well.

Vit Muller: 00:20:36

mind Pal.

Vit Muller: 00:20:37

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah, Mind Pal.

Vit Muller: 00:20:38

Yeah, it's great.

Vit Muller: 00:20:40

Okay, let me look that up.

Vit Muller: 00:20:41

I haven't heard that before.

Vit Muller: 00:20:42

Kristine L’Estrange: It's a good one.

Vit Muller: 00:20:43

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:20:43

I have to get onto it.

Vit Muller: 00:20:44

I have been joining in in Molly Mahoney's amazing AI stars program and so that

Vit Muller: 00:20:53

I have been learning over there.

Vit Muller: 00:20:55

Molly is amazing, her pre program's Awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:20:58

And if she hasn't been on your podcast already, you must get her over here.

Vit Muller: 00:21:03

No, she hasn't.

Vit Muller: 00:21:04

Please introduce me.

Vit Muller: 00:21:05

Kristine L’Estrange: excellent.

Vit Muller: 00:21:06

Will do.

Vit Muller: 00:21:06

Yep.

Vit Muller: 00:21:06

She's AI and high level queen.

Vit Muller: 00:21:08

We love her.

Vit Muller: 00:21:09

So yeah, I'm learning mind pal over there and thinking more and more about how I

Vit Muller: 00:21:13

use that to automate different tasks in our business and that's been really cool.

Vit Muller: 00:21:20

That's awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:21:20

I'm looking at mind pal now.

Vit Muller: 00:21:21

So, Interesting, interesting.

Vit Muller: 00:21:23

use case.

Vit Muller: 00:21:24

How is it different to, from high level workflows though?

Vit Muller: 00:21:27

Because it looks like workflow building

Vit Muller: 00:21:31

Kristine L’Estrange: Yep, that's right.

Vit Muller: 00:21:31

Workflows.

Vit Muller: 00:21:32

And we pass between agents, which are a bit like your custom GPTs.

Vit Muller: 00:21:35

They've got their trained instructions.

Vit Muller: 00:21:38

and so the first one will do the task and then pass over to the second

Vit Muller: 00:21:42

one and the next one, second one.

Vit Muller: 00:21:44

And we can do actions and stuff too, which I think, you know, some of my peers I

Vit Muller: 00:21:47

see doing in, with the CPS in N eight N.

Vit Muller: 00:21:52

And that, and,

Vit Muller: 00:21:52

Kristine L’Estrange: is that it?

Vit Muller: 00:21:53

Do you use that vid?

Vit Muller: 00:21:54

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:21:54

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:21:54

I've got a private server.

Vit Muller: 00:21:55

we, we haven't fully, you know, fully, leveraged it yet.

Vit Muller: 00:21:59

We just sort of started to, deeper feed into it.

Vit Muller: 00:22:02

So, we had, shout out to Mario.

Vit Muller: 00:22:03

he helped me set, set up our, server.

Vit Muller: 00:22:06

So we do use it for some custom integration on, for

Vit Muller: 00:22:09

some of our, our clients.

Vit Muller: 00:22:11

but there's definitely a lot more scope for sure.

Vit Muller: 00:22:14

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, look, it's a brave new world out there,

Vit Muller: 00:22:16

and we're all, we have to remember, we're all learning every day.

Vit Muller: 00:22:19

more and more things to do with AI and automation.

Vit Muller: 00:22:22

It is just incredible, and it's growing at such a speed.

Vit Muller: 00:22:25

So I'm only just starting to tap into agents and things that

Vit Muller: 00:22:29

they can do and also, you know, connecting into high level that way.

Vit Muller: 00:22:34

But yeah, even just this year, we're only in August now, you know, we've come

Vit Muller: 00:22:39

so far in that short amount of time, or even since I was in Sydney, which

Vit Muller: 00:22:44

was in late May, you know, so much has happened since then in the world of ai.

Vit Muller: 00:22:48

It's just incredible.

Vit Muller: 00:22:50

Now I wanna bring up an important topic, and this

Vit Muller: 00:22:53

is more on a personal side, what I've been experiencing and out.

Vit Muller: 00:22:57

And I think that might be relatable to, the guys listening.

Vit Muller: 00:23:00

I've been in high level since 2021.

Vit Muller: 00:23:03

I love the features and I'm very nerdy and I love building workflows and, you know,

Vit Muller: 00:23:08

I built my snapshots and things like that.

Vit Muller: 00:23:11

Since AI has become a hot thing, like since, pretty much since October

Vit Muller: 00:23:16

last year when, Harvard released AI employee and the full suite of features.

Vit Muller: 00:23:21

but even AI in general, like just the, you know, the J curve that we've seen

Vit Muller: 00:23:27

this whole year with so many new products on the market, so many new tech, the,

Vit Muller: 00:23:32

the actual technology and enhancements.

Vit Muller: 00:23:34

I must say, personally, I've been feeling like I'm not catching up with it anymore.

Vit Muller: 00:23:40

I used to catch up with, you know, show me kinda coming at you and like I look

Vit Muller: 00:23:44

at workflows and like, oh, this is cool.

Vit Muller: 00:23:45

Yeah, I can, I get the workflows and I've got full control now there's

Vit Muller: 00:23:49

ai and it's like, there's so much to learn and I'm trying to keep

Vit Muller: 00:23:55

learning and staying on top of it.

Vit Muller: 00:23:56

It just feels overwhelming.

Vit Muller: 00:23:57

But at the same time, I'm a business owner and I see the opportunity and I also,

Vit Muller: 00:24:02

I also feel the, like that there is an.

Vit Muller: 00:24:06

There's a window of opportunity and if you don't jump on it that you miss out.

Vit Muller: 00:24:10

So I've been feeling just a bit of that overwhelm and feeling like, wow.

Vit Muller: 00:24:14

it's, it's a lot.

Vit Muller: 00:24:15

Have you been, do you relate?

Vit Muller: 00:24:18

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, absolutely.

Vit Muller: 00:24:19

Like it is, there's so much, it changes so quickly and it takes, like, in

Vit Muller: 00:24:24

some ways, it takes a lot of time to pull yourself away from your business

Vit Muller: 00:24:28

and upskill yourself, but actually also not that long, which I've been

Vit Muller: 00:24:33

reflecting on lately, which is a really strange sort of situation.

Vit Muller: 00:24:38

But I.

Vit Muller: 00:24:39

think I've learned a lot in, in AI in a short amount of time.

Vit Muller: 00:24:44

But then if I actually think about the time it's taken me to learn that.

Vit Muller: 00:24:48

If you compare it to other things that we've all learned, like maybe at

Vit Muller: 00:24:52

university or things like that, it's like crazy that you can actually upskill

Vit Muller: 00:24:57

yourself in, like, like really propel yourself in say like 10 hours of getting

Vit Muller: 00:25:01

deep into ai saying that Vit, it is so hard to carve out those 10 hours, right?

Vit Muller: 00:25:09

When you have a really busy, busy, work schedule, you've been burning the

Vit Muller: 00:25:13

candle at both ends up doing really late nights, getting into your client work.

Vit Muller: 00:25:18

And so, Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:25:20

it's a tricky situation, but, I kind of disagree with you about a window.

Vit Muller: 00:25:24

like there's a window that you have to jump in to get on board, otherwise

Vit Muller: 00:25:27

you'll kind of never catch up.

Vit Muller: 00:25:28

I, I sort of actually disagree and then while I'm kind of further ahead

Vit Muller: 00:25:33

than others that I see my peers, who might not be as fluent in AI as I am,

Vit Muller: 00:25:38

and there's plenty who are ahead of me and I'm not as fluent as them, I do

Vit Muller: 00:25:43

actually think like just jumping in.

Vit Muller: 00:25:46

Like, there's always gonna be people ahead of you.

Vit Muller: 00:25:48

There's always gonna be people behind you.

Vit Muller: 00:25:50

You need to like just be AI forward, admit that you are, you're not perfect

Vit Muller: 00:25:55

and you're never going to know everything.

Vit Muller: 00:25:57

But it is so valuable to jump in and carve out that time, which is so precious,

Vit Muller: 00:26:03

admittedly, to propel yourself because, you know, putting in that 10 hours has,

Vit Muller: 00:26:09

you know, will save you like 50 hours and just make you so much more productive.

Vit Muller: 00:26:16

so Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:26:16

it's, I think it's about that imperfect action, just knowing

Vit Muller: 00:26:21

there's no perfect way to do it.

Vit Muller: 00:26:22

We, if I knew we could all take like a month off, right?

Vit Muller: 00:26:25

And just like get on top of all of the AI stuff that we need

Vit Muller: 00:26:28

to, we know we need to be doing.

Vit Muller: 00:26:30

Like for most of us, that's not, not something that we can do.

Vit Muller: 00:26:33

But I think just picking up where you can and moving yourself forward with

Vit Muller: 00:26:36

that imperfect action is so valuable to everybody and couldn't encourage

Vit Muller: 00:26:41

everyone enough to do that, myself

Vit Muller: 00:26:43

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:26:43

No, absolutely.

Vit Muller: 00:26:44

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:26:44

I look it,

Vit Muller: 00:26:45

Kristine L’Estrange: I need the reminder.

Vit Muller: 00:26:46

you disagree with me because it's, you know, it's good to know that,

Vit Muller: 00:26:49

you know, this is not the standard, like this is maybe just happening in my

Vit Muller: 00:26:52

own head and I just gotta deal with it.

Vit Muller: 00:26:54

But I

Vit Muller: 00:26:55

Kristine L’Estrange: over.

Vit Muller: 00:26:55

just jump in when you can.

Vit Muller: 00:26:57

I, I, I did wanted to just share with, with the guys anyway,

Vit Muller: 00:27:00

because I'm, I'm, I, I think that, you know, there might be others who

Vit Muller: 00:27:03

are like, might be feeling the same and I just like, well it's, it's, it's

Vit Muller: 00:27:06

completely fine to feel that way 'cause it is like crazy times that we live in.

Vit Muller: 00:27:11

That's

Vit Muller: 00:27:11

Kristine L’Estrange: It is, it is.

Vit Muller: 00:27:12

It's really hard.

Vit Muller: 00:27:13

And look, I, as I said, I'm in Molly's program, which I'm getting so much out

Vit Muller: 00:27:17

of, but I know that I'm like one webinar behind and I feel like a naughty student.

Vit Muller: 00:27:22

It's extremely hard to find that time to catch up.

Vit Muller: 00:27:24

And I will, but, you know, know that everybody feels that

Vit Muller: 00:27:28

way, you know what I mean?

Vit Muller: 00:27:29

And just, just do what you can and it will really serve you.

Vit Muller: 00:27:32

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:27:33

So if you guys are listening, if that's you, just know that you're not alone.

Vit Muller: 00:27:37

We're all going through that stuff, in some way, shape, or form.

Vit Muller: 00:27:40

Kristine, can we talk about the, certification program?

Vit Muller: 00:27:44

you, you hinted on it a little bit.

Vit Muller: 00:27:45

I, I haven't, I do have it on my list potentially to do it as well, although

Vit Muller: 00:27:49

part of me is like, do I really need to, I've, I've been part of so many years.

Vit Muller: 00:27:54

what, what would be, like the main benefit of doing it?

Vit Muller: 00:27:56

Can you break it down for us and what was your experience of it as well?

Vit Muller: 00:27:59

'cause I don't actually know.

Vit Muller: 00:28:01

I know that there is, assessments and you go through the thing and

Vit Muller: 00:28:04

then you have to kind of do it, on ongoing, so you can stay, stay,

Vit Muller: 00:28:08

like up to date with certification.

Vit Muller: 00:28:10

But yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:28:11

can you share your experience with that program and what

Vit Muller: 00:28:13

it's been like for you since

Vit Muller: 00:28:15

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, sure.

Vit Muller: 00:28:16

Absolutely.

Vit Muller: 00:28:17

So just like yourself, I was pretty experienced in high level before

Vit Muller: 00:28:20

sitting the certification and you know, a lot of thoughts running

Vit Muller: 00:28:23

through my head being like, what?

Vit Muller: 00:28:25

I don't need this piece of paper.

Vit Muller: 00:28:27

You know, like, is this really necessary time and money investment, to do it?

Vit Muller: 00:28:32

you know, should I, should I, and I made the decision to do it and it is,

Vit Muller: 00:28:37

30 hours of videos, going through all the content, the basics of, go how

Vit Muller: 00:28:42

level, all the different features.

Vit Muller: 00:28:44

so I did it in May 2024 and I started, sat myself down with

Vit Muller: 00:28:49

a goal of to do it in a month.

Vit Muller: 00:28:51

because I thought it's, we've all paid for lots of training courses

Vit Muller: 00:28:55

over the time, and I thought for $97, if I can smash this out in a month.

Vit Muller: 00:28:59

I'll just get outta there if I, if it doesn't serve right.

Vit Muller: 00:29:03

So, and I also thought, look, if I don't get in the month, we just keep going

Vit Muller: 00:29:07

second month, that same sort of thing, like imperfect action, let's just do this.

Vit Muller: 00:29:12

And so I jumped in and sort of basically did my hour a night after my kids

Vit Muller: 00:29:17

went to bed, and then like a couple little bits on the weekend to catch up

Vit Muller: 00:29:21

when inevitably something came up or child was sick or something like that.

Vit Muller: 00:29:25

and I found it really good actually, despite my years in high level.

Vit Muller: 00:29:28

There were still things that I learned from it.

Vit Muller: 00:29:31

and I feel like it was like jotting the i's and crossing the t's of my knowledge.

Vit Muller: 00:29:37

and I think anyone that goes through it gets such a good foundation in go

Vit Muller: 00:29:41

high level, that it just makes their software experience so, so much better.

Vit Muller: 00:29:45

So I really liked the content despite a lot of it being, you know, stuff

Vit Muller: 00:29:50

I already knew, but those extra little tips were really valuable.

Vit Muller: 00:29:53

and then at the end of it, you do like a. An exam on your computer

Vit Muller: 00:29:58

that's a longer, longer quiz, I guess, takes probably about an hour.

Vit Muller: 00:30:03

That's the part A of the exam.

Vit Muller: 00:30:04

And then you book in to do a supervised exam, with the high level staff over at

Vit Muller: 00:30:09

certification for the part B of the exam.

Vit Muller: 00:30:12

And after you finish that, you are certified.

Vit Muller: 00:30:16

Now the exam is actually really hard and it's not so much that it's really

Vit Muller: 00:30:21

hard, it's that you have to do so much in such a short amount of time.

Vit Muller: 00:30:26

It's ridiculous.

Vit Muller: 00:30:28

I would say I.

Vit Muller: 00:30:28

probably a bit faster now.

Vit Muller: 00:30:31

but Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:30:31

I'd say at the time after I've been on the system for like two years

Vit Muller: 00:30:34

using high level every day, I would've done what they asked us to do in

Vit Muller: 00:30:38

like two and a half, three hours.

Vit Muller: 00:30:41

You know, call me a snail.

Vit Muller: 00:30:43

I don't care.

Vit Muller: 00:30:43

That's like absolutely what I would've done.

Vit Muller: 00:30:45

So I found it so, so hard to do everything in that short amount of time.

Vit Muller: 00:30:51

But I think it's good because it proves that you need to, know your stuff.

Vit Muller: 00:30:59

You need to know your stuff to be able to get through it.

Vit Muller: 00:31:01

You can't just make it up and somehow get through.

Vit Muller: 00:31:04

so if you get a certified expert, then you know that, you know, they

Vit Muller: 00:31:08

know their stuff on the system.

Vit Muller: 00:31:10

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:31:11

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:31:11

So I, I, I like the, the level of like, the, the.

Vit Muller: 00:31:15

The high standards that you're mentioning on the exam and all that, because I've

Vit Muller: 00:31:19

been thinking about even, you know, as an investment to my team to put them

Vit Muller: 00:31:22

through it and have that like actual confidence that if I actually do put

Vit Muller: 00:31:28

somebody through and they do come through the course to get satisfied.

Vit Muller: 00:31:31

It's not just, it wasn't an easy handout.

Vit Muller: 00:31:34

It was, it was a bit of a level of challenge.

Vit Muller: 00:31:36

You mentioned that, that was hard because the, how much time does that mean that

Vit Muller: 00:31:41

there is like a limit for the exam?

Vit Muller: 00:31:44

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, so it's just one hour.

Vit Muller: 00:31:46

You, you must complete all their tasks in, which is setting up a lot of workflows

Vit Muller: 00:31:51

and funnels and, those sorts of things.

Vit Muller: 00:31:55

all in a short amount of time and calendars too, and making a sub adding

Vit Muller: 00:31:59

staff, getting their hours, right?

Vit Muller: 00:32:01

interesting.

Vit Muller: 00:32:02

So you have somebody watching you for that

Vit Muller: 00:32:04

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:05

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:05

Just, on Zoom actually,

Vit Muller: 00:32:07

Okay.

Vit Muller: 00:32:08

Kristine L’Estrange: and you your screen.

Vit Muller: 00:32:10

That's interesting.

Vit Muller: 00:32:11

So I'm just trying to think, you know, why It makes a lot of sense.

Vit Muller: 00:32:17

It makes a lot of sense because it's about a return on investment, right?

Vit Muller: 00:32:21

So if I'm gonna hire somebody and they're certified, like it's not just about

Vit Muller: 00:32:27

skillset, but how fast can they do it?

Vit Muller: 00:32:30

Like they know their stuff and they can do it fast, efficiently.

Vit Muller: 00:32:34

That's really like when it comes to business, that's where the money's at,

Vit Muller: 00:32:37

Kristine L’Estrange: It's absolute key.

Vit Muller: 00:32:38

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:39

To get those people, because it doesn't matter if you can like, set up a calendar

Vit Muller: 00:32:43

and it takes you a week to do it.

Vit Muller: 00:32:44

Like that's no used to anyone, you know?

Vit Muller: 00:32:47

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:47

You know, you're not making any money.

Vit Muller: 00:32:49

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:49

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah, exactly.

Vit Muller: 00:32:50

So it sort of works really well that way.

Vit Muller: 00:32:52

And then ultimately Vit I've stayed in the program, contrary to what I

Vit Muller: 00:32:57

thought I would do, I thought I'd be like out of there because, it's

Vit Muller: 00:33:01

been really great for my business.

Vit Muller: 00:33:02

we have.

Vit Muller: 00:33:04

Lots of leads come through, via, well, we have leads come through

Vit Muller: 00:33:07

via the directory, but also in the level certified admin community.

Vit Muller: 00:33:14

We get referrals directly from users, that need help in their accounts, that,

Vit Muller: 00:33:19

support, support can't help because that's why they created this certification

Vit Muller: 00:33:23

program because there's this gap between like, technical stuff in the program

Vit Muller: 00:33:27

and actual marketing strategy, right?

Vit Muller: 00:33:29

So support can't give you, detailed marketing strategy support.

Vit Muller: 00:33:34

they can help you how to connect things and that sort of thing

Vit Muller: 00:33:36

that they do really well.

Vit Muller: 00:33:38

But yeah, the gap is serviced by the, certified admins, right?

Vit Muller: 00:33:41

And so, we get lots of referrals from users across the network,

Vit Muller: 00:33:46

dropped into there, and then we can all respond to them.

Vit Muller: 00:33:49

Which has been really good for me until I was a certified admin.

Vit Muller: 00:33:53

I only had customers in Australia and New Zealand and it has allowed

Vit Muller: 00:33:57

me to, bring on like quite a few customers in the us, one in uk.

Vit Muller: 00:34:02

but yeah, it's been really fabulous for my business.

Vit Muller: 00:34:03

I had a stream of referrals from it, so I found it really valuable and

Vit Muller: 00:34:07

it's not anything I would ever cancel.

Vit Muller: 00:34:10

and I couldn't, couldn't, you know, recommend it more to you.

Vit Muller: 00:34:14

I feel like it's a little hidden gem of GHL in Sydney.

Vit Muller: 00:34:17

I met up with, I think there was like five of us there.

Vit Muller: 00:34:21

and everyone, all of the other certified admins I spoke to were like, oh my gosh.

Vit Muller: 00:34:25

Like, it feels like a little secret life hack.

Vit Muller: 00:34:29

It's just because it's been so great for us being in the program and, you know,

Vit Muller: 00:34:34

helped us in our businesses so, so much.

Vit Muller: 00:34:37

Obviously aside from opportunities, new clients and

Vit Muller: 00:34:40

projects, I think what you said at the beginning of this was also that

Vit Muller: 00:34:44

it allows you to like validate your skills, validate your knowledge.

Vit Muller: 00:34:47

Right.

Vit Muller: 00:34:47

Because that's like, for us, we've been using GHL, I haven't done it like

Vit Muller: 00:34:51

I think I know, but then that's the, the, the, you, you don't know what

Vit Muller: 00:34:56

you don't know as well that aspect.

Vit Muller: 00:34:58

So by going through it and crossing i's and t's and realizing

Vit Muller: 00:35:02

either, yes, that's validation.

Vit Muller: 00:35:04

There's no more.

Vit Muller: 00:35:05

I actually really, truly know that.

Vit Muller: 00:35:06

It just gives you extra confidence that's, you know, you can back

Vit Muller: 00:35:09

yourself up or realize, oh.

Vit Muller: 00:35:12

Okay.

Vit Muller: 00:35:13

Yeah, I didn't thought about this way.

Vit Muller: 00:35:14

That's a, it's an extra a gap in my skillset and my knowledge.

Vit Muller: 00:35:18

and you know, in, in this business model that we are all in, I think understanding

Vit Muller: 00:35:23

the product really well is critical.

Vit Muller: 00:35:25

Whether you are actually build stuff yourself for clients or not.

Vit Muller: 00:35:29

You, it's, I, I, you know, personally, I, I would find it very difficult to

Vit Muller: 00:35:34

delegate any projects to my team if I didn't truly understand product.

Vit Muller: 00:35:40

Partly that might be talking me, talking the, the nerd in me that

Vit Muller: 00:35:43

needs to understand everything.

Vit Muller: 00:35:44

But I think that's some truth to that.

Vit Muller: 00:35:46

Would you agree?

Vit Muller: 00:35:47

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, absolutely.

Vit Muller: 00:35:48

No, it's, it's really helpful.

Vit Muller: 00:35:50

And yeah, helps in terms of outsourcing stuff to my staff and that sort of thing.

Vit Muller: 00:35:55

They get stuck.

Vit Muller: 00:35:56

I can hand, I can explain it to them.

Vit Muller: 00:35:58

Another actually really good feature that they have with the certified

Vit Muller: 00:36:02

admin program is that you also get access to priority support, which

Vit Muller: 00:36:06

is a bit of a nice little feature.

Vit Muller: 00:36:08

I mean I think priority support is like $400 a month or something like that.

Vit Muller: 00:36:13

Extra if you're, if you're paying for it for yourself.

Vit Muller: 00:36:15

But, it's just a little bit of a acknowledgement that the support

Vit Muller: 00:36:18

tickets that we put in are sort of really well thought through.

Vit Muller: 00:36:22

Like we've got a good understanding of the software.

Vit Muller: 00:36:25

It's much less likely to be just user error or the person needs explaining

Vit Muller: 00:36:30

because we've already got that knowledge.

Vit Muller: 00:36:31

So the tickets that we, submit, you know, really are probably bugs, and

Vit Muller: 00:36:36

need to be escalated quickly for us.

Vit Muller: 00:36:39

so that's been really good too.

Vit Muller: 00:36:41

I've certainly tapped into that a lot.

Vit Muller: 00:36:43

that's okay.

Vit Muller: 00:36:44

That's a nice little hidden gym.

Vit Muller: 00:36:45

I had no idea about that one.

Vit Muller: 00:36:47

I, I do use, I, I do, I'm with HR Produce guys who I've got dedicated Slack channel

Vit Muller: 00:36:53

for agency support and they've been great.

Vit Muller: 00:36:55

and I often.

Vit Muller: 00:36:57

Find, you know, that surpasses the standard, high level support like

Vit Muller: 00:37:01

way, way more because, um, they jump in and, and, but they just know more.

Vit Muller: 00:37:05

But this is good 'cause I have been considering the premium,

Vit Muller: 00:37:09

GHL one as another layer as well.

Vit Muller: 00:37:11

'cause sometimes, you know, whichever option you go, whether you ask in a

Vit Muller: 00:37:15

community, you ask your piece or submit a ticket or drop it in HL Pro Slack

Vit Muller: 00:37:20

channel, sometimes there are bug, like you said, or, problems you're trying to

Vit Muller: 00:37:25

solve and you just really need to get them done quick so that way you can like

Vit Muller: 00:37:29

spread, spread the, spread the opportunity of getting whoever gets it quicker.

Vit Muller: 00:37:33

but also whoever can actually help you with that.

Vit Muller: 00:37:36

'cause I have had some experiences where you're trying to solve something and,

Vit Muller: 00:37:40

and you just keep being passed on, passed on, passed on, and it's nothing happens.

Vit Muller: 00:37:45

It's like, oh, that doesn't help.

Vit Muller: 00:37:47

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, there's definitely been some frustrating moments

Vit Muller: 00:37:50

with support, but yeah, it's been good having that extra layer and I've used

Vit Muller: 00:37:54

it obviously for my SaaS clients, but also for my other GHL user clients,

Vit Muller: 00:38:00

that I work in their GHL accounts too.

Vit Muller: 00:38:02

So it's, yeah, I, think I've gotten very good value out of that, out of

Vit Muller: 00:38:05

the whole certification program really.

Vit Muller: 00:38:07

It is quite fabulous.

Vit Muller: 00:38:08

And so, Vit we wanna see your, your badge, it's gonna be a 2025 goal for you.

Vit Muller: 00:38:15

I, I I think so.

Vit Muller: 00:38:16

I mean, I gotta clear a couple things on my desk, but I think I'm in, I

Vit Muller: 00:38:20

think I'm in this is, this sounds very, appealing to me now that you,

Vit Muller: 00:38:23

the way you broke it down and sometimes you just gotta hear it from a user.

Vit Muller: 00:38:26

What was the experience?

Vit Muller: 00:38:27

'cause I mean, at the face value I get, I get it.

Vit Muller: 00:38:29

But yeah, this is great.

Vit Muller: 00:38:30

So thanks for sharing.

Vit Muller: 00:38:32

one more question on that though.

Vit Muller: 00:38:33

You mentioned, so you're still in there.

Vit Muller: 00:38:35

You still, so does that mean that in order to stay, you gotta keep

Vit Muller: 00:38:39

on doing the exams every month?

Vit Muller: 00:38:41

Or how does that work?

Vit Muller: 00:38:42

Kristine L’Estrange: So, we would need to get Alicia from certification in for that.

Vit Muller: 00:38:46

But I think that you need to redo that really hard exam every two years, assuming

Vit Muller: 00:38:55

that you go on to do other badges.

Vit Muller: 00:38:59

So you do your exam and you get your certification badge, and then after

Vit Muller: 00:39:02

that there's lots of other badges that you can collect for different things.

Vit Muller: 00:39:06

So some of the ones that I have, I have to look up my profile, but, I think I've

Vit Muller: 00:39:10

got like ads management and social media manager and AI employee for example.

Vit Muller: 00:39:17

And so there's little courses that you can do to get extra budgets in

Vit Muller: 00:39:21

addition to your certified admin ones.

Vit Muller: 00:39:23

So assuming that you're doing that ongoing professional development, which is what.

Vit Muller: 00:39:26

They're trying to see in the certification program, then you can reset your exam,

Vit Muller: 00:39:31

every two years instead of every one year, which is what it, what it would

Vit Muller: 00:39:35

be if you don't do that extra learning.

Vit Muller: 00:39:38

so yeah, I guess next May is when I'll reset that exam.

Vit Muller: 00:39:41

and yeah, that's how it works, I guess.

Vit Muller: 00:39:44

I think, I think that's right.

Vit Muller: 00:39:45

but yeah, gotta check in with the certification team to make sure that's

Vit Muller: 00:39:48

a hundred percent correct, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

Vit Muller: 00:39:53

I love it.

Vit Muller: 00:39:53

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:39:54

Definitely put it on my list.

Vit Muller: 00:39:56

Kristine Automation is clear, a passion of yours.

Vit Muller: 00:39:58

How do you see automation, evolving in the, in the SaaS model with high level?

Vit Muller: 00:40:04

And what should the listeners you reckon be focusing on to stay ahead?

Vit Muller: 00:40:10

Kristine L’Estrange: gosh, it is hard to stay ahead, but carving out that

Vit Muller: 00:40:13

time to try and keep in the game and upskill yourself is really worthwhile.

Vit Muller: 00:40:17

It'll really serve you well.

Vit Muller: 00:40:19

something that I'm doing that's really cool right now, which I think

Vit Muller: 00:40:22

maybe you have started doing as well, is, using a chat experience

Vit Muller: 00:40:28

to look at things in the CRM.

Vit Muller: 00:40:30

So instead of having to look up my clients and see what's happening in the contacts,

Vit Muller: 00:40:35

looking for tags, looking for forms, and who submitted, we can just like Ask

Vit Muller: 00:40:40

the chat bot who the last person Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:40:43

Who was the last person to submit a form?

Vit Muller: 00:40:46

What's the address for this client?

Vit Muller: 00:40:48

Send an email.

Vit Muller: 00:40:49

So then the actions as well send an email out to this client saying, I'm

Vit Muller: 00:40:53

gonna move your meeting to this time.

Vit Muller: 00:40:55

for example, we'll follow up on that.

Vit Muller: 00:40:57

and that's stuff that I would often, two or three months ago, or back when

Vit Muller: 00:41:02

we were in Sydney, I would've asked my, my VA staff, an incredible VA support

Vit Muller: 00:41:07

team to just check in with a client on something or do this or do that.

Vit Muller: 00:41:12

Now we are starting to get ai.

Vit Muller: 00:41:14

to take those actions for us, and it's just early days and, you know, I've only

Vit Muller: 00:41:19

done it probably like 10 times, but it's really exciting, really, really exciting.

Vit Muller: 00:41:25

And we know that, AI is kind of getting, what is it, 10 X better, one x better,

Vit Muller: 00:41:31

a a lot better, every three months.

Vit Muller: 00:41:33

And that's definitely what we're seeing.

Vit Muller: 00:41:35

And so, gosh, where are we gonna be by Christmas Vit?

Vit Muller: 00:41:39

Mm-hmm.

Vit Muller: 00:41:40

I mean, imagine, imagine this, right?

Vit Muller: 00:41:44

It's already got a capability to do what you just said.

Vit Muller: 00:41:47

Ask AI and say, Hey, can you look up this, contact that

Vit Muller: 00:41:51

contact, tell me this and that.

Vit Muller: 00:41:53

So you can do that as a small, it takes a little bit of a couple of seconds.

Vit Muller: 00:41:57

That's the only my experience so far with it.

Vit Muller: 00:41:59

But that's a, you know, that's a small trade off of what the power,

Vit Muller: 00:42:03

what the power it gives you.

Vit Muller: 00:42:05

But there's still pro, like you still have to be proactive about it.

Vit Muller: 00:42:07

You still have to talk to it.

Vit Muller: 00:42:09

I reckon we are gonna get to, to a spot where, similarly to how you

Vit Muller: 00:42:15

set up your brand voice, similarly to how you set up your brand guide,

Vit Muller: 00:42:19

your visual identity so that AI has context and kinda tap into that.

Vit Muller: 00:42:23

I think there's also gonna be, like a business objective feature that would be

Vit Muller: 00:42:30

cool, like set up a business objective.

Vit Muller: 00:42:31

We say, well we sell these widgets or these services.

Vit Muller: 00:42:35

our ideal customer is matches this profile when we normally reach out

Vit Muller: 00:42:42

or when we normally follow up with people is when, you know, they hit.

Vit Muller: 00:42:48

You know, these different activities in the CRM, these different engagements,

Vit Muller: 00:42:51

they've, they hit this much score on the lead score level or something like that.

Vit Muller: 00:42:56

That's how we operate.

Vit Muller: 00:42:57

That's how we manually then go and see that this is most likely candidate

Vit Muller: 00:43:00

like to close as a sale opportunity.

Vit Muller: 00:43:03

I reckon.

Vit Muller: 00:43:05

I reckon this would be pretty awesome because you could plug it into the AI

Vit Muller: 00:43:11

and it would then just do it for you.

Vit Muller: 00:43:13

So it would be proactive for you, it would be always assessing the data on

Vit Muller: 00:43:18

ongoing basis and it would pick up a list of people and then you just log

Vit Muller: 00:43:24

in in the morning and it just says, Hey, overnight while you are sleeping,

Vit Muller: 00:43:29

I've, I've picked up these five contacts that are like pretty hot and I reckon

Vit Muller: 00:43:34

if you call them, you know, close and then, and even to that next thing could

Vit Muller: 00:43:39

be a, by the way, would you like me to call them for, would you like me to put

Vit Muller: 00:43:43

them into like an intense AI follow up?

Vit Muller: 00:43:45

Combination of chat, outbound voice, I don't know, emails.

Vit Muller: 00:43:50

That'd be like a fully automated CRM at that point.

Vit Muller: 00:43:54

Kristine L’Estrange: You can taste it right.

Vit Muller: 00:43:55

Bit like literally happening.

Vit Muller: 00:43:58

Like, okay,

Vit Muller: 00:43:59

get into it.

Vit Muller: 00:44:00

Like

Vit Muller: 00:44:00

Kristine L’Estrange: I'm not calling it.

Vit Muller: 00:44:01

before Christmas, but absolutely agree with you.

Vit Muller: 00:44:03

It is absolutely going to happen like very soon.

Vit Muller: 00:44:07

It's, it's crazy.

Vit Muller: 00:44:09

It really is.

Vit Muller: 00:44:10

It's, we are living in the future.

Vit Muller: 00:44:13

We really are.

Vit Muller: 00:44:15

Such an exciting time to be

Vit Muller: 00:44:16

It is.

Vit Muller: 00:44:17

It is exciting.

Vit Muller: 00:44:18

Kristine, just back to your, a woman in go high level community, it's

Vit Muller: 00:44:22

amazing what you're doing, but I'm interested any, like, do you have

Vit Muller: 00:44:28

like any specific success stories or breakthroughs that have come out of this

Vit Muller: 00:44:32

group that you're particularly proud of?

Vit Muller: 00:44:36

Kristine L’Estrange: Ah, well, it's early days at the moment.

Vit Muller: 00:44:39

we are just focusing on growing.

Vit Muller: 00:44:41

our mission is to get to 20,000 women.

Vit Muller: 00:44:45

my reason for this number is, there's over a hundred thousand

Vit Muller: 00:44:48

users in the main group, and I figure not not half of them are women.

Vit Muller: 00:44:53

We're always a minority, in sectors such as tech.

Vit Muller: 00:44:57

And so let's say there's 40,000, which hopefully there is.

Vit Muller: 00:45:01

and let's get half of?

Vit Muller: 00:45:02

them over into GHL community as our first kind of really big,

Vit Muller: 00:45:06

KPI I guess, success stories.

Vit Muller: 00:45:09

What can I tell you?

Vit Muller: 00:45:10

Feedback from users has been really, really positive.

Vit Muller: 00:45:13

I think there's a lot, genuinely a lot of people out there really enjoying

Vit Muller: 00:45:16

it, which really makes my heart sing.

Vit Muller: 00:45:18

there's people that have been able to get help in the main group and

Vit Muller: 00:45:22

have come over to us and throughout through the community we've been able

Vit Muller: 00:45:26

to help them and that sort of thing.

Vit Muller: 00:45:27

So that's been really, really good.

Vit Muller: 00:45:30

There was, a user just yesterday, I think, who was having a lot of trouble

Vit Muller: 00:45:35

with their chatbot and I think we are almost on track with them now.

Vit Muller: 00:45:39

and she was a new user, right?

Vit Muller: 00:45:41

and she pointed out, which I loved, and it was beautiful to hear that in

Vit Muller: 00:45:44

her, industry, which is photography, she very much is, you know, putting

Vit Muller: 00:45:49

herself out there to help people.

Vit Muller: 00:45:51

just as we are trying to help people too.

Vit Muller: 00:45:54

Get involved, solve problems, that's what we wanna do.

Vit Muller: 00:45:56

you know, without any backlash or anything like that.

Vit Muller: 00:46:01

Like, we wanna be a group of smart women asking smart questions.

Vit Muller: 00:46:05

you know, no question is, is dumb.

Vit Muller: 00:46:08

It's smart if you wanna know the answer.

Vit Muller: 00:46:10

And we are all here to help and support each other.

Vit Muller: 00:46:13

And if people do know the answers, like I'm all about

Vit Muller: 00:46:16

collaboration, growing together.

Vit Muller: 00:46:18

Like, if you know the answer fast, get in there and help

Vit Muller: 00:46:21

that person and lift them up.

Vit Muller: 00:46:23

because, you know, we all grow together.

Vit Muller: 00:46:25

Rising tide lifts all of the boats.

Vit Muller: 00:46:29

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:46:29

I love it.

Vit Muller: 00:46:30

I love it.

Vit Muller: 00:46:30

So, ladies, if you're listening, go to Facebook.

Vit Muller: 00:46:34

Look up woman of high level, join the group.

Vit Muller: 00:46:38

You've got a lot to benefit from.

Vit Muller: 00:46:40

Kristine L’Estrange: And also we know that when you come in, you will have

Vit Muller: 00:46:44

a lot to give to our community too.

Vit Muller: 00:46:46

So it's, it's really important that you get in there as soon as possible Ladies.

Vit Muller: 00:46:51

I was for a second.

Vit Muller: 00:46:52

I was like, is that, are you, are you, are you creating a little

Vit Muller: 00:46:55

opportunity for me to get in there?

Vit Muller: 00:46:58

Kristine L’Estrange: I'm so

Vit Muller: 00:46:58

that wouldn't work.

Vit Muller: 00:47:00

Kristine L’Estrange: Gary, Gary Capps that you interviewed the

Vit Muller: 00:47:02

other week, he's probably the number one fan of, women of GHL.

Vit Muller: 00:47:06

He would really love to get in.

Vit Muller: 00:47:08

He's tried many times requesting to get in.

Vit Muller: 00:47:10

I haven't seen any requests yet come through from you, but, you know, they

Vit Muller: 00:47:14

may up like, Gary, I'll decline you, but, 'cause it's our special space.

Vit Muller: 00:47:19

but Yeah, does make me giggle how many times he has requested to come in.

Vit Muller: 00:47:24

that's, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:47:24

That's brilliant.

Vit Muller: 00:47:25

Yeah, he's a good man.

Vit Muller: 00:47:25

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:47:26

I saw that he, he was just in the Philippines recently.

Vit Muller: 00:47:28

I know you were, keynote through Zoom was that like virtual keynote.

Vit Muller: 00:47:32

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah, we just did a little virtual, beam in for women of GHL.

Vit Muller: 00:47:36

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:47:37

That's cool.

Vit Muller: 00:47:38

And that was, JC jcs event.

Vit Muller: 00:47:40

so for those guys listening, we, we have a mutual friend that is running one of the

Vit Muller: 00:47:46

largest VA agencies in the Philippines.

Vit Muller: 00:47:48

She's a Filipino, and she put together this event, couple

Vit Muller: 00:47:51

of weeks, two weeks back.

Vit Muller: 00:47:52

At the time of releasing this episode, what was, what, what are we on mid, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:47:57

Early August is when this happened, event happened and it

Vit Muller: 00:48:02

was over a thousand attendees,

Vit Muller: 00:48:05

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:48:05

1,100 I think.

Vit Muller: 00:48:06

high level experts.

Vit Muller: 00:48:08

what was.

Vit Muller: 00:48:09

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:48:09

Can you give it a quick, a quick rundown what the event was sparked, because

Vit Muller: 00:48:12

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah, sure.

Vit Muller: 00:48:13

So it was the first year anniversary of, telework HL Accelerator.

Vit Muller: 00:48:20

so yeah, like a year.

Vit Muller: 00:48:21

They've been on that journey really to kind of build a

Vit Muller: 00:48:25

digital Philippines, actually.

Vit Muller: 00:48:27

get a lot of people into jobs often, working overseas.

Vit Muller: 00:48:32

So like my team that are all locally, Based in the Philippines.

Vit Muller: 00:48:36

you know, I think that's a huge part of the Filipino economy, and it's also

Vit Muller: 00:48:42

making a huge difference in people's lives over there as they digitize

Vit Muller: 00:48:46

and join the workforce and give back to their local communities and

Vit Muller: 00:48:50

their families and things like that.

Vit Muller: 00:48:52

So, yeah, I mean, JayCee on a huge mission.

Vit Muller: 00:48:55

She's an incredible woman to know.

Vit Muller: 00:48:58

and she, her impact is really, really sensational.

Vit Muller: 00:49:02

She, impacts a lot of people's lives, myself included.

Vit Muller: 00:49:05

she's amazing.

Vit Muller: 00:49:06

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:49:07

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:49:07

We're organizing an interview to get her on the show.

Vit Muller: 00:49:10

I had to talk to her when, when we were in Manly.

Vit Muller: 00:49:12

Did you go with us for that, for that ferry trip?

Vit Muller: 00:49:14

We went to Manly.

Vit Muller: 00:49:15

Bunch

Vit Muller: 00:49:16

Kristine L’Estrange: the avo.

Vit Muller: 00:49:17

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:49:18

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:49:18

That was cool.

Vit Muller: 00:49:19

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:49:20

very cool.

Vit Muller: 00:49:21

Alright, well for, for those who, are just starting off high level in general,

Vit Muller: 00:49:26

man or woman, what advice would you give them to maximize their success?

Vit Muller: 00:49:32

Kristine L’Estrange: Ah, gosh.

Vit Muller: 00:49:32

Well, I would just say to them, high level is an incredible

Vit Muller: 00:49:37

opportunity to earn money.

Vit Muller: 00:49:40

usually working from home.

Vit Muller: 00:49:42

it's a fabulous opportunity for all of us.

Vit Muller: 00:49:44

It's not a get rich quick scheme by any means.

Vit Muller: 00:49:46

Gotta

Vit Muller: 00:49:46

Definitely.

Vit Muller: 00:49:47

Kristine L’Estrange: put in the hard work or the, the mahi, as we say over

Vit Muller: 00:49:50

here in New Zealand to put the mahi in.

Vit Muller: 00:49:52

but it really is an incredible opportunity.

Vit Muller: 00:49:55

I would say dive into the system, learn as much as you can so that

Vit Muller: 00:49:59

you can, know the system well.

Vit Muller: 00:50:02

And then just solve problems.

Vit Muller: 00:50:04

Solve problems for businesses.

Vit Muller: 00:50:05

They don't have to be big.

Vit Muller: 00:50:06

They don't have to be taking over the whole world.

Vit Muller: 00:50:09

But even just small, solving small problems is extremely valuable, for local

Vit Muller: 00:50:14

business and a great place to start.

Vit Muller: 00:50:17

Excellent, excellent.

Vit Muller: 00:50:19

And another way, also to support you on that journey is adjoining,

Vit Muller: 00:50:22

Of the amazing, one of the many amazing, high level communities.

Vit Muller: 00:50:25

If you're a New Zealand, high level community of New Zealand.

Vit Muller: 00:50:28

Is that, what's the name of that one?

Vit Muller: 00:50:29

The, the, high level New Zealand.

Vit Muller: 00:50:31

Kristine L’Estrange: yeah, high level New Zealand.

Vit Muller: 00:50:33

is the Facebook group for the incredible Kiwi community.

Vit Muller: 00:50:37

so absolutely join us there if you're not already, if you're a GHL, user.

Vit Muller: 00:50:42

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:50:43

Alright.

Vit Muller: 00:50:43

Couple of rapid fire questions before we wrap up.

Vit Muller: 00:50:46

what about GHL originally grab your attention?

Vit Muller: 00:50:49

well this is, I mean, you kind of hinted on the, the ads, but

Vit Muller: 00:50:52

maybe it was something else.

Vit Muller: 00:50:53

I dunno, was there something specific, that, that really grabbed

Vit Muller: 00:50:56

your attention aside from the ads?

Vit Muller: 00:50:58

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:50:59

So, click Funnels, Calendly active campaign.

Vit Muller: 00:51:02

Don't need them anymore.

Vit Muller: 00:51:04

Just one subscription really.

Vit Muller: 00:51:07

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:51:08

What a new high level feature, are you like most excited about right now and why?

Vit Muller: 00:51:12

Kristine L’Estrange: Whew.

Vit Muller: 00:51:13

good question.

Vit Muller: 00:51:14

They, there are so many, they come so often.

Vit Muller: 00:51:17

Let's pick one.

Vit Muller: 00:51:19

Gosh.

Vit Muller: 00:51:21

Ooh, big pause.

Vit Muller: 00:51:23

I'll, I'll tell you what mine is.

Vit Muller: 00:51:24

Kristine L’Estrange: Do you want to get Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:51:25

Multiple choice here, be it, tell, tell me yours or multiple choice, and

Vit Muller: 00:51:28

I, I, I was in a town hall, at one o'clock in the morning

Vit Muller: 00:51:31

to, with the, it was town hall about social planner and, blog.

Vit Muller: 00:51:37

So, but for those of you guys listening, just in case you didn't

Vit Muller: 00:51:39

know, GHL has these town halls, which are brilliant opportunity to have a

Vit Muller: 00:51:44

real time interaction with the actual developers of that particular product.

Vit Muller: 00:51:48

So anyway, it wasn't a town hall yesterday.

Vit Muller: 00:51:50

Learned about cool new things that are coming for social planner and blog.

Vit Muller: 00:51:54

One of the big one is that, We already use bulk scheduling through CSV for socials,

Vit Muller: 00:51:59

especially like for the, you know, for all the different marketing pieces from

Vit Muller: 00:52:02

each episode we do on this podcast.

Vit Muller: 00:52:05

and now this is coming to blog,

Vit Muller: 00:52:07

Kristine L’Estrange: Yay.

Vit Muller: 00:52:08

a CSV book uploading.

Vit Muller: 00:52:09

So you create all your blog into a spreadsheet, your titles, your meta

Vit Muller: 00:52:13

tax, your SEO in one, one spreadsheet, and then you upload it, in one go.

Vit Muller: 00:52:19

So, really, really cool way to, to, to handle blogs and book.

Vit Muller: 00:52:23

but after that, town hall, I went to bed.

Vit Muller: 00:52:27

I don't know, you know, I just kinda like scroll my phone a little

Vit Muller: 00:52:30

bit more before I just can't, 'cause I'm still buzzing, right?

Vit Muller: 00:52:33

I can't let go and sleep.

Vit Muller: 00:52:35

Kristine L’Estrange: I do know the feeling So, so well.

Vit Muller: 00:52:38

a, a, a good mate of mine, Michael, Michael

Vit Muller: 00:52:40

Reimer, shout out to Michael.

Vit Muller: 00:52:41

He's doing amazing things for everybody when it comes to ai.

Vit Muller: 00:52:45

He's been a very, valuable, contributor to the community.

Vit Muller: 00:52:49

I think he's on one of the masterminds as well that just went out on with high

Vit Muller: 00:52:52

level, but he made a post, because he's on the beta with, on the back end of

Vit Muller: 00:52:57

high level for the next, feature that's coming, where you'll have, and I, I saw

Vit Muller: 00:53:03

it briefly, but basically, just like you go to workflow, visual Workflow,

Vit Muller: 00:53:07

you'll have an ability to program, visually program the, your AI agents.

Vit Muller: 00:53:12

So it's almost like stuff that we use N eight N for.

Vit Muller: 00:53:16

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah, I have seen it And I was

Vit Muller: 00:53:18

high level.

Vit Muller: 00:53:20

Kristine L’Estrange: epic.

Vit Muller: 00:53:20

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:53:21

I think I saw a tiny little thing about that and was So, excited

Vit Muller: 00:53:24

for what's to I have an answer for you now if you're ready.

Vit Muller: 00:53:28

service calendar beater.

Vit Muller: 00:53:30

Have you had a look at it?

Vit Muller: 00:53:32

No,

Vit Muller: 00:53:33

Kristine L’Estrange: It's great.

Vit Muller: 00:53:34

So one thing I think, high level hasn't done very well up

Vit Muller: 00:53:36

until now, is service calendar.

Vit Muller: 00:53:39

So think about like for your spas, massage, this type of place that has like

Vit Muller: 00:53:44

a clinic, usually a physical location and lots of different appointment

Vit Muller: 00:53:48

types, for Different sessions.

Vit Muller: 00:53:50

So I guess maybe using like massages as an example, they might do like

Vit Muller: 00:53:53

hour, 15 minutes, different locations.

Vit Muller: 00:53:57

modalities, remedial sports.

Vit Muller: 00:53:59

Kristine L’Estrange: Exactly right.

Vit Muller: 00:54:00

And so I don't think high level till this point has done that very

Vit Muller: 00:54:03

well at All In fact, I'd usually be recommending, an external add-on for that.

Vit Muller: 00:54:08

but yeah, we're starting to use for some clients in Christchurch,

Vit Muller: 00:54:12

the service be calendar and what I'm seeing is really amazing.

Vit Muller: 00:54:17

So I think as that the final refinements, get done and then it

Vit Muller: 00:54:21

goes outta beta is gonna be really exciting for those types of businesses.

Vit Muller: 00:54:26

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:54:26

Well, that sounds exciting.

Vit Muller: 00:54:28

What I would like to see a support for fitness, because I, my background's

Vit Muller: 00:54:31

in fitness and I know that for gyms, when it comes to managing classes,

Vit Muller: 00:54:36

you got really, you got two things.

Vit Muller: 00:54:38

You got classes and then that's variety of different classes, especially like

Vit Muller: 00:54:41

martial art classes, kids classes.

Vit Muller: 00:54:43

I did classes, different lengths, all that, but.

Vit Muller: 00:54:47

you need the ability to link of actual subscription, right?

Vit Muller: 00:54:50

So if you're not paying, if you, if you're not paid up, you can't book a class and

Vit Muller: 00:54:53

things like that, that would be pretty cool because that's one pain point.

Vit Muller: 00:54:57

And I think it's very common with really any industry, that you're

Vit Muller: 00:55:00

after, you're trying to help.

Vit Muller: 00:55:01

If you're trying to help, service-based, you know, home services, industry,

Vit Muller: 00:55:05

electricians, plumbers, they always service Titan and service mate,

Vit Muller: 00:55:08

you know, all those platforms.

Vit Muller: 00:55:10

We don't really have a way to negatively, you know, solve that.

Vit Muller: 00:55:13

So like, right now, you just gotta integrate.

Vit Muller: 00:55:15

Same thing with fitness industry, right?

Vit Muller: 00:55:17

Mind buddy Online is such a behemoth, they hold most of the monopoly.

Vit Muller: 00:55:21

Then you got all, a lot of, a lot of the other, software providers

Vit Muller: 00:55:24

for that fitness industry as well.

Vit Muller: 00:55:26

but, yeah, kind of hard because the, and, and it's, and it's kinda like, it's okay.

Vit Muller: 00:55:30

Like, I get it.

Vit Muller: 00:55:31

you can integrate, but the, The big friction that, that I always

Vit Muller: 00:55:37

see with clients is like, oh, so now we have to manage two things.

Vit Muller: 00:55:40

You know,

Vit Muller: 00:55:42

Kristine L’Estrange: Gotta integrate where you can.

Vit Muller: 00:55:44

yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:55:44

But if you can Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:55:45

Ultimately move to where we eliminate that, we do it all in

Vit Muller: 00:55:48

one system, that's much better.

Vit Muller: 00:55:50

Right.

Vit Muller: 00:55:51

So it's really exciting working on that with my clients in Christchurch who are

Vit Muller: 00:55:54

really wanting to, use high level in as much capacity as they can, and not have

Vit Muller: 00:56:01

a separate appointment booking system and work through the beta part of this.

Vit Muller: 00:56:06

Software release and yeah, it's really exciting to see that unfold.

Vit Muller: 00:56:10

on a beta, so that's why you are using it and are you're seeing,

Vit Muller: 00:56:13

you're seeing good results with it.

Vit Muller: 00:56:15

is there any indication when it's going out of beta.

Vit Muller: 00:56:18

Kristine L’Estrange: not sure.

Vit Muller: 00:56:19

we have a meeting like I think next week with the calendar, project manager.

Vit Muller: 00:56:23

so yeah, I'll ask them then and see if I can get back to you on that one.

Vit Muller: 00:56:27

but it's working, it's working pretty well, so I don't imagine

Vit Muller: 00:56:29

it's gonna be in beta forever.

Vit Muller: 00:56:31

So, couple little things I'd like to change, which would be, for example,

Vit Muller: 00:56:36

being able to click with a hyperlink through to the client contact.

Vit Muller: 00:56:39

We can do that.

Vit Muller: 00:56:40

And we're really used to doing that in other areas of the

Vit Muller: 00:56:42

calendar that's not in there.

Vit Muller: 00:56:44

So hopefully I feel not the biggest thing to add in, like hopefully

Vit Muller: 00:56:48

they can add that in for us.

Vit Muller: 00:56:49

There was another smallish thing too, which was like similar, right.

Vit Muller: 00:56:53

So I'd love to see them just take our feedback on that and build

Vit Muller: 00:56:56

that in and then, then get it out.

Vit Muller: 00:56:58

Otherwise, I feel like it's not too far off.

Vit Muller: 00:57:01

sounds exciting.

Vit Muller: 00:57:02

That's awesome.

Vit Muller: 00:57:03

yeah, that'd be, that'd be brilliant.

Vit Muller: 00:57:05

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:57:05

for sure.

Vit Muller: 00:57:06

perfect.

Vit Muller: 00:57:07

now onto the next segment, we have this segment called The Beef.

Vit Muller: 00:57:11

Have you heard of it?

Vit Muller: 00:57:12

Kristine L’Estrange: No.

Vit Muller: 00:57:12

Tell me about the beef.

Vit Muller: 00:57:14

so the beef is, is where we discuss constructive feedback on high

Vit Muller: 00:57:18

level to improve the platform and get up votes on like one idea that you'd

Vit Muller: 00:57:22

like that or that you've submitted on the I Ds board that maybe is not

Vit Muller: 00:57:26

getting enough up votes because maybe it's more of an edge case or it's

Vit Muller: 00:57:29

just gotten buried in the algorithm.

Vit Muller: 00:57:31

And you know, one thing with, with with ideas board and feature suggestions

Vit Muller: 00:57:35

is, is the only way you can do it.

Vit Muller: 00:57:39

There's, there's two ways really that I know how you can promote your ideas.

Vit Muller: 00:57:43

That's one you go to ideas dot high go high level.com and you

Vit Muller: 00:57:47

submit submitted there and that's what the dev team is looking at.

Vit Muller: 00:57:51

But they're only gonna put it into their production if it's got enough outputs.

Vit Muller: 00:57:55

So then the next logical thing is like, well I'll put a, a post-it

Vit Muller: 00:57:58

in the community on Facebook.

Vit Muller: 00:57:59

Unfortunately, you can't do that.

Vit Muller: 00:58:01

That's against policy and they'll take it down.

Vit Muller: 00:58:03

So the only next best thing I know is those town halls because

Vit Muller: 00:58:07

you're talking to those devs directly and they actually do it.

Vit Muller: 00:58:11

It's almost like it bypasses the whole, you know, the upvoting

Vit Muller: 00:58:15

mechanism, which is great.

Vit Muller: 00:58:16

do you have, like something that you've posted on your ideas board that you'd like

Vit Muller: 00:58:21

to give a bit of, a bit of a highlight

Vit Muller: 00:58:23

Kristine L’Estrange: Yes, absolutely.

Vit Muller: 00:58:24

I've got something that, needs the attention of everybody listening.

Vit Muller: 00:58:27

You need to go right there.

Vit Muller: 00:58:28

I don't have the link for you, but perhaps I can give it to

Vit Muller: 00:58:30

you after the, call bit and

Vit Muller: 00:58:32

we can get that

Vit Muller: 00:58:33

we'll put in show notes.

Vit Muller: 00:58:34

Mm-hmm.

Vit Muller: 00:58:34

Kristine L’Estrange: So, one thing we need is proposals.

Vit Muller: 00:58:38

That feature is amazing and high level, I think.

Vit Muller: 00:58:40

I can't think of any feedback to give them.

Vit Muller: 00:58:43

Except landscape proposals.

Vit Muller: 00:58:47

Landscape proposals, people let us build our proposals in landscape

Vit Muller: 00:58:52

Oh, okay.

Vit Muller: 00:58:53

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:58:53

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:58:54

Yep.

Vit Muller: 00:58:54

Kristine L’Estrange: instead of only portrait.

Vit Muller: 00:58:55

It would mean the world to me and lots of other people in particularly women

Vit Muller: 00:59:00

of GHL 'cause we're quite passionate about designing really nice landscape

Vit Muller: 00:59:06

proposals to send to our clients.

Vit Muller: 00:59:08

we also feel really strongly that there's a lot of other proposal

Vit Muller: 00:59:13

software out in the marketplace.

Vit Muller: 00:59:14

And really the only thing that they do better than high level is allow

Vit Muller: 00:59:20

people to make landscape proposals.

Vit Muller: 00:59:22

And so for our individual SaaS businesses, if we could promote the proposal area

Vit Muller: 00:59:28

of documents and contracts is what its official name is, part of the software

Vit Muller: 00:59:33

and show that we can just straight away rebuild people's beautiful landscape

Vit Muller: 00:59:38

proposals in there, it would be.

Vit Muller: 00:59:40

Really beneficial for us and we'd get a lot of people, more people in through

Vit Muller: 00:59:43

our SaaS, make it more attractive.

Vit Muller: 00:59:46

So that's something I'm quite passionate about.

Vit Muller: 00:59:47

That one.

Vit Muller: 00:59:48

Sounds like a bit of an HK for some, but I'd a hundred percent.

Vit Muller: 00:59:52

it may sound like a bit of an HK for some, but for me, I a hundred

Vit Muller: 00:59:56

percent with you on that because I like, I've got my proposal.

Vit Muller: 01:00:00

It's like a 20 page, really nicely designed template in our Canva

Vit Muller: 01:00:05

Kristine L’Estrange: Yep.

Vit Muller: 01:00:06

You have to have it landscape.

Vit Muller: 01:00:08

Like it's, it's hard to convey that information with the

Vit Muller: 01:00:11

message, with the visuals when it's, yeah, when it's vertical.

Vit Muller: 01:00:15

So I'll definitely give you an upload for that one.

Vit Muller: 01:00:18

So yeah, let's drop the link in the show notes.

Vit Muller: 01:00:20

If you guys agree.

Vit Muller: 01:00:21

check out the show notes.

Vit Muller: 01:00:23

By the way, if, if you're listening to this podcast, you might be, you know,

Vit Muller: 01:00:26

you might be watching it on YouTube, you might be watching it on Spotify.

Vit Muller: 01:00:29

if you, there is the full show notes are available, you just need to go to podcast.

Vit Muller: 01:00:35

So podcast.highlevelexperience.com.

Vit Muller: 01:00:39

And that's a, we've got like two websites.

Vit Muller: 01:00:41

So we have highlevelexperience.com, which is a website that I built inside our

Vit Muller: 01:00:45

high level, and that's got everything to learn about the podcast, become a guest,

Vit Muller: 01:00:49

become a sponsor, all those cool things.

Vit Muller: 01:00:51

and we do feature the latest episode, but you don't have a way to see, or

Vit Muller: 01:00:56

the past episode, there is buttons that will take you to the past episode.

Vit Muller: 01:00:59

I'm just giving, I'm just giving you a shortcut.

Vit Muller: 01:01:02

So it's  podcast.highlevelexperience.com, which is a site that we have with our

Vit Muller: 01:01:07

distribution platform that we use.

Vit Muller: 01:01:09

We use Captivate.

Vit Muller: 01:01:10

but yeah, that's where you find it guys.

Vit Muller: 01:01:12

So, find this episode and the show notes on that website.

Vit Muller: 01:01:16

Our like, really rich, like, there's a lot of stuff.

Vit Muller: 01:01:19

You won't find the full extent of show notes on any other distribution platform.

Vit Muller: 01:01:23

It's just how it works.

Vit Muller: 01:01:24

Like if we push an episode out to Apple Podcast, you get, like a shortened,

Vit Muller: 01:01:29

like a snippet because you know, that's the, you know, how, how this works.

Vit Muller: 01:01:32

So just wanted to highlight that.

Vit Muller: 01:01:34

now I'm gonna take it further.

Vit Muller: 01:01:36

I'm gonna take it further.

Vit Muller: 01:01:37

What I would like to see, not only support for landscape, but, and I do know that,

Vit Muller: 01:01:42

native integration with Canva is coming 'cause I've seen it on the town hall.

Vit Muller: 01:01:46

Kristine L’Estrange: Me too.

Vit Muller: 01:01:47

Saw a little screenshot there with a blurry tiny button.

Vit Muller: 01:01:51

So exciting.

Vit Muller: 01:01:52

So you'll have, how that's gonna work, is you're gonna

Vit Muller: 01:01:55

go into the media, storage and you'll be able to plug in your designs from

Vit Muller: 01:02:01

Canva into media storage and just be able to pick, pick the design, even

Vit Muller: 01:02:05

edit with a little, like a model.

Vit Muller: 01:02:07

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:02:07

So very exciting.

Vit Muller: 01:02:08

But what I'd like to see on the, proposals, if they do that landscape

Vit Muller: 01:02:13

thing, to also be able to, because you, you can import PDFs, but

Vit Muller: 01:02:17

being able to, you know, like, Hey, I already got a conva design.

Vit Muller: 01:02:21

Can we just use That

Vit Muller: 01:02:23

Kristine L’Estrange: Yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:02:24

I think that's great.

Vit Muller: 01:02:25

I think Let's get that in there as well.

Vit Muller: 01:02:27

Fabulous.

Vit Muller: 01:02:28

do it.

Vit Muller: 01:02:28

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:02:29

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 01:02:30

Alright guys.

Vit Muller: 01:02:31

if you have a beef, and this is all in, you know, in, All in the good spirit.

Vit Muller: 01:02:34

But at the end of the day, it is a software platform and every software

Vit Muller: 01:02:37

platform has its, ups and downs.

Vit Muller: 01:02:40

So if you have a beef, you want to get more uploads, something

Vit Muller: 01:02:43

meaningful, then share it.

Vit Muller: 01:02:45

this is very much a, you know, a community-based podcast guy.

Vit Muller: 01:02:48

So if you have a beef head over to highlevelexperience.com/thebeef,

Vit Muller: 01:02:53

and on that page you'll see a form where you can just submit, your beef.

Vit Muller: 01:02:57

So it's just explain what it is.

Vit Muller: 01:03:00

You have to make sure you include your link that you've

Vit Muller: 01:03:02

submitted on the ideas board.

Vit Muller: 01:03:03

Ideally record it like a little voice memo, and then we'll plug it into

Vit Muller: 01:03:08

one of these episodes and then, you know, we'll feature in the show notes.

Vit Muller: 01:03:12

so that's, that's that.

Vit Muller: 01:03:14

And I think we're at the end.

Vit Muller: 01:03:16

I've got one final tricky question for you.

Vit Muller: 01:03:19

Two questions to wrap it up.

Vit Muller: 01:03:21

tell me something that's true that almost nobody agrees with you on.

Vit Muller: 01:03:25

Kristine L’Estrange: Hmm.

Vit Muller: 01:03:26

The feature to add automatic notes in Go High Level is amazing.

Vit Muller: 01:03:32

Huh?

Vit Muller: 01:03:33

Kristine L’Estrange: That's my little nerd alert.

Vit Muller: 01:03:34

building in workflows to add every action that happens into

Vit Muller: 01:03:38

notes automatically is amazing.

Vit Muller: 01:03:40

I don't know anybody else that thinks that that is true, but I know It is.

Vit Muller: 01:03:44

Does that answer your question?

Vit Muller: 01:03:46

It is.

Vit Muller: 01:03:47

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:03:47

'cause I use that as well.

Vit Muller: 01:03:48

Like, events happen against the contact and especially when it

Vit Muller: 01:03:53

comes to custom fields, because custom fields can get overwritten.

Vit Muller: 01:03:58

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:03:58

Then you lose that info.

Vit Muller: 01:03:59

Kristine L’Estrange: Talking like a builder.

Vit Muller: 01:04:01

Yep.

Vit Muller: 01:04:02

yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:04:02

So very, very useful.

Vit Muller: 01:04:03

I actually applied every, every, any event that happens in contact

Vit Muller: 01:04:07

automatically adds a new note.

Vit Muller: 01:04:09

yeah, that's, yeah, a hundred percent with you on that one.

Vit Muller: 01:04:13

So there you go.

Vit Muller: 01:04:14

Kristine, we're gonna wrap it up.

Vit Muller: 01:04:15

I'm gonna give you your opportunity to now, if you wanted to pass any

Vit Muller: 01:04:20

message just on the like, pattern on, on, on, on finishing this episode.

Vit Muller: 01:04:24

anything you'd like to say to the audience.

Vit Muller: 01:04:27

Kristine L’Estrange: well, thank you very much for coming this far and

Vit Muller: 01:04:29

listening to our amazing, podcast.

Vit Muller: 01:04:31

Make sure that you are subscribed to the high level experience.

Vit Muller: 01:04:35

I think it's a really quality program for anybody using high level.

Vit Muller: 01:04:39

if you're a lady, I would love to see you over in the women of GHL.

Vit Muller: 01:04:44

We'd absolutely love to have you there.

Vit Muller: 01:04:46

And also my fellow Kiwis.

Vit Muller: 01:04:49

I might have an Australian accent, but I do live over in Hawkes Bay,

Vit Muller: 01:04:53

and if you're a high level user, we would absolutely love to have

Vit Muller: 01:04:56

you over in that community as well.

Vit Muller: 01:04:59

Amazing.

Vit Muller: 01:05:00

Thank you Kristine.

Vit Muller: 01:05:01

I look forward to hang out with you in Dallas.

Vit Muller: 01:05:03

Hopefully you are yu mean.

Vit Muller: 01:05:05

You, you said that at the beginning.

Vit Muller: 01:05:06

You are, you are pretty much there, so I think you will be there.

Vit Muller: 01:05:09

Kristine L’Estrange: 90, 99%.

Vit Muller: 01:05:11

eh?

Vit Muller: 01:05:11

99%.

Vit Muller: 01:05:12

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 01:05:12

Awesome.

Vit Muller: 01:05:13

Yeah, it's gonna be an epic week.

Vit Muller: 01:05:14

So looking forward to it.

Vit Muller: 01:05:16

So thank you again for, for being on.

Vit Muller: 01:05:18

I appreciate you, appreciate sharing your journey and your

Vit Muller: 01:05:20

insights with the audience.

Vit Muller: 01:05:23

And, guys, as well, thank you for listening to today's episode

Vit Muller: 01:05:26

on High Level Experience.

Vit Muller: 01:05:27

by the way, when I say guys, I mean, you know what I mean, right?

Vit Muller: 01:05:31

I just wanna clarify.

Vit Muller: 01:05:33

Kristine L’Estrange: Ladies and gentlemen, girls and boys, of that.

Vit Muller: 01:05:36

everybody, thank you so much for listening.

Vit Muller: 01:05:38

If you've enjoyed today's episode, then please share it with your fellow agency

Vit Muller: 01:05:41

mates and other high levels that you think would also benefit from listening.

Vit Muller: 01:05:45

For show notes, links and extra tips to help you grow your agency

Vit Muller: 01:05:47

or your sales at high level, please go to highlevelexperience.com.

Vit Muller: 01:05:51

Thank you and have a great the rest of your day, everybody.