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Welcome to another episode on the High Level Experience Podcast.

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Our guest today is a fellow HighLeveler and an educational

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pioneer in the SaaS community.

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He's the founder of GHL University, an institution dedicated to

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maximizing the capabilities of go high level users by providing

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comprehensive training and resources.

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His mission is to empower agencies, SaaSpreneurs, and their clients

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to fully leverage, go high level to transform their business.

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Please welcome to the show Orient Daily from

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GHO University.

Orien Daly: 00:00:33

Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much for the invitation.

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yeah, it's a pleasure to be here and, you know, I, I look forward to our, our

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fruitful conversation in the next hour.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely mate.

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Yeah.

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Welcome to the welcome to the show.

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to kick things off, could you share what, what inspired you to start GHL

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university and how it's changing the way users engage with high level?

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yeah, well, it, it was more out of frustration, so, for people

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who didn't know much about me, I've, I've essentially, I worked for two

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big white label support companies in space and, I have spoken to at least

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a thousand high level agency owners.

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Over the last two to three years, I grew my own SaaS to about 35 clients.

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30 5K per month was our peak.

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And that was really fun.

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But the, the, the money was, it fluctuates, right?

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You have a good month, you have a bad month.

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so we started working for these third party companies and that

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just gave me the opportunity to speak to so many different people.

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And I realized there's a, there's a lot of marketing out there trying to attract

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high levelers to use go high level, but not that much information out there

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for the actual customers themselves.

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So this all came about when for one of those third party companies,

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I was selling a snapshot and I did the onboarding for them.

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And this is the same snapshot that I bought in 2022, right?

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December.

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It was when I was trying to figure out how to use high

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level, but I had no instructions.

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So I remember asking the founder, I'm like, Hey, do you

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have like instructional videos?

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On how to use your snapshot?

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Not for me.

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'cause I don't, I don't know how to, I don't need to know how to use it.

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I need to give it to my customers to know how to use it.

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And they said no.

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So I actually built it out for them

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Mm-hmm.

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and that sort of led me to this point where we're

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here now where we have over 350 customers, using our gray label.

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And one of the really cool things is that we have the ability to white label it.

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So we used AI and Hagen to create our AI avatar.

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it's like a loom video on the top left side hand side of your screen.

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And I can basically, I can turn you into an AI and have you present your

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avatar, your the one explaining my training videos to your clients.

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That's genius.

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Okay.

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We're talking real leverage here.

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mate, we'll, we'll go into the technicalities of that for sure.

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I wanna get, I wanna dive into that and I'm sure everybody's

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listening wants to know as well.

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But, just going back to what you said, man, working with over 2000 agencies

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that you had, you know, that you had the opportunity to, you know, to

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support on the back of working for the, for the, for the white level,

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you know, support provider, that's.

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That's priceless.

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You know, like when it comes to like running a business and, and trying

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to like really hone your craft, I think there is nothing better than

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having a conversation with, with, with people, with the market, right?

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Because you learn so much and the fact that you've done that, it's, it's, and

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I've been, I've been in GHL, since 20, a little bit longer than you, so maybe

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like a year and a half longer than you.

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But I feel like you, you probably have more insights than I do

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Yeah,

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because you had those conversations.

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yeah,

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And what I'm, I guess I'm trying to say is just referencing

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back to anybody that's listening, you know, whether it's talking to

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agencies or talking to the underlying businesses, the way you figure out

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how you can provide the most value is by having more conversations and

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focusing on the problems that they face.

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The impact that you can provide rather than the underlying solution.

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Because the solution, let's face it, solution is like, should be flexible.

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We should be able to pivot, we should be able to adjust, right.

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For their best benefit.

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So what, in your experience, what are like some of the biggest pain points?

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Because there's the trends, right?

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Like if you speak to 2000 people, you're gonna, you start to pick up on

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Yeah.

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You do

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what are some of the biggest like pain points that you've

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discovered talking to GHL agencies?

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it, it ranges, depends on the person.

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there's a deep underlying frustration with go high level the level of complexity.

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You know, it, it, it.

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It draws in a lot of newcomers, you, you know this right?

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The, you speak to experts, but I was speaking to like guys who work in nine to

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fives, guys who were in crippling debt.

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Guys who are like high levels,

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Oh shit.

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Sorry man.

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I got it wrong.

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So you didn't speak to, to the agency you spoke to?

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2000, the UN underlying business businesses.

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no, these are agency owners who were struggling.

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Okay.

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Ah-huh.

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Right.

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So that's what I mean.

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Like when I went to the Dallas Summit event, I'm like, there

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are hundreds of highly successful entrepreneurs, or at least people who

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made their way out all the way here.

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That's like the North 0.1% people who made it.

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Yeah.

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When we get on these calls, guys who are struggling to get their

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first client, their, their fifth client, their 10th client, guys who are sick,

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guys who are, who lost their house, like spoke to a guy who lost their house.

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Guys who are in their eighties, who are trying to build and sell AI in high level.

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And it's just like, oh man.

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I, the reason why I made the Geo two University is because our clients were

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med spa owners, ladies and gentlemen, in their forties, fifties, sixties.

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They don't really know tech AI data, like database reactivation,

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A two P, like all this stuff was just too overwhelming for them.

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Oh, I bet.

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Dude, it was hard.

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And I was, I was getting on calls where people, I once spent three

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hours on a call with a lady trying to find her Facebook password.

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And I was like, okay, cool.

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This is, this is it.

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I'm done.

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I'm done doing this.

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There must be an easier way.

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And there is.

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So we made those videos and the issue here was high level keeps updating,

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Mm-hmm.

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High level keeps updating every single day.

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So what we did was my fiance, who's, who's my, you know, for, for people

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who are viewing it, our little, we went to Philippines in December

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and our team made this for us.

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So it was really nice.

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Yeah.

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And, she, she's the smart one.

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I'm, I'm, I make this joke all the time.

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I say I'm the, I'm the looks and she's the, the brains.

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She's a software engineer, but she's also quite pretty.

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So I'm kind, I'm, yeah.

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So you know, I'm just the guy who kind of chats a lot on Zoom and she, she's

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the, she's the real brain of this side of things and she's the one who managed

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to figure out, Hey, maybe we use, Hey Jen, maybe you, we turn you into an AI

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and have you be the one explaining it.

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Whenever we need a new video, we can do it instead of having you

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film it and then update it and then et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Yeah.

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And that, that was just like light bulb moment.

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Maybe other people struggle to explain high level to their clients

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and maybe other business owners struggle to use go high level.

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That has been the recurrent issue over these last few years,

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speaking to hundreds, if not thousands of agencies, owners, and,

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business owners using high level.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I've used Hagen, probably about three years ago and

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I tried to do some videos and I didn't quite like it, but I guess

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it's been three years, right?

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So maybe it's going, it's going and improved itself a lot.

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still, still, still a bit, still a bit iffy sometimes.

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You know, it's ai, AI's on the cusp of almost being there, and I, I truly

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believe those who, you know, especially the, the people in your guests, I'm

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sure you've spoken to many AI experts, guys who are in it day to day learning

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about it, getting used to it, getting their hands dirty, building cool shit.

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I dunno if I can swear in this, but like,

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Yeah, mate, you can if

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okay, okay.

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be free.

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Building, building, really cool stuff, right?

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They're gonna be the, the next six figure, seven figure, eight

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figure entrepreneurs in this space.

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Full stop.

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So,

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well, here's another take on it, right?

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I just got, I was on a call the other day and, mate of mine,

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he shared a link to a document.

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I was like, oh, what's that?

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it's just a little document from a world economic forum for 2025 report.

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okay.

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the world's, you know, the, the amount of jobs that are

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gonna be displaced in five years.

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You know, nothing.

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You just a little thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, you, you're talking in millions in, you're talking in hundreds

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of millions of jobs, roles, professions are gonna be displaced because of ai.

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And, and top careers that are gonna be on the rise are gonna be in

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understanding ai eng, ai engineers, data, data, you know, data, data

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experts, and data system developers.

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those type, those type of roles.

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Yeah.

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So.

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What you're saying is totally true, very valid.

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And anybody's listening as well.

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Like, this is, this is the future.

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And I think this is like the perfect moment for a lot of us right now.

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Like we are in this space.

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I mean, I'm talking to business owners here in locally in my city where I'm at,

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Yeah.

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here in Canberra, Canberra, Australia, and I'm, you

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know, every week I go to my local BNI, but I also do a bunch of other

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networking events that I go to local business chamber and things like that.

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And you speak to business owners and I'm starting to see

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that little bit of a shift.

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It's not, not huge, but a little bit, you know, at the

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beginning, like hesitant about ai.

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Now they're, I'm starting to hea few people that wanted to

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contact me that they're starting to like be interested in ai.

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Yeah,

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It's just gonna, like by end of this year, it's

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gonna be whole nother story.

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I don't think it's gonna take very long before a lot of businesses owners

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will actually really realize and.

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Proactively will like, really want it now.

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Like right now they're like five and it'll get to 10.

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Like, I need this shit.

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And they actually, yeah, actually get it.

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that's when like if you get, if you get there early, you, you get

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the apprehend 'cause you don't want to get there late and then

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try to figure all this out by then.

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And it's the same thing with high level, right?

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If you started with high level five years ago,

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Hmm.

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the amount of features that were in high level, the

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capabilities five years ago were maybe like three and now there's 10.

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So like now you're starting high level.

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Well good luck to you mate.

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Like there's so much more learning curve than there was before.

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Correct,

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So.

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Yeah.

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Agreed.

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It's, it's, it's a hard, it's, you know, I was, I was fortunate enough, I, the reason

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I called it the G two University was because I went to the G two University.

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I, I was doing a master's here in London.

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I was meant to go to med school, but I, you know, tried for

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two years and I didn't get in.

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So I said to myself, fine, even if I didn't get in, you know, I'm gonna treat

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the next five years, like it's med school.

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Like it's, you know, Thursday night at 10:00 PM I'm doing

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a call, you know, whatever.

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I'll do what it takes to.

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To achieve my goals.

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And, and instead of going to med school, I said, cool, why not?

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Why don't you go high level?

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and of course, you know, I I, I was very naive at the start.

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Some guy got me on his affiliates and I'm still paying for it.

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he's an affiliate, a billionaire, whatever they call it nowadays.

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but I wanted to build, I wanted to be a real business owner.

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I wanted to really help people out.

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And I don't want to, I didn't wanna just make a quick buck on an affiliate.

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I wanted them to win.

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'cause I know the power of guy level.

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It's changed my life.

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Like it's, it like truly has changed my life.

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And when I get on these bus, like when I get on these calls with these

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guys who are struggling, who can't pay rent, who can't pay their mortgages,

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who have family members that are sick, I got on a call with a guy today,

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his wife got, wife's got leukemia.

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And he said to me, he's like, dude, I need to make, I need to

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make 30 K or 40 K. I'm at 20.

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Help me out.

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I'm like, okay, okay.

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Let's, let's do it.

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Let's, let's figure it out together.

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High level is, is their savior.

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And it, it was my savior.

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I was, I was in a very tough spot a couple years back and learning skills,

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doing the dials, doing the cold calls, learn building funnels and automations,

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and being part of this AI trend.

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And then obviously getting the opportunity to, to partner up with,

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with some of these big, I, I call it the Facebook and Google of, of high level.

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Some of these big corporations I've, I've partnered up with, my mom doesn't

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really get any of this that I do.

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She's like, is this KPMG or Deloitte?

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I'm like, no, mom, this, this is, this is go high level.

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This is CRMs.

Orien Daly: 00:12:39

Oh, you know?

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It's, it's, it's, yeah, it's like we we're, we are our own world.

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We are our, like we have this own bubble, like all of us.

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How level us, I feel

Orien Daly: 00:12:49

Yeah.

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We do.

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We do.

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We do.

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We do.

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And it's, it's, it's beautiful and it's a blessing to be part of it.

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And I, you know, I'm, I'm getting.

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Hang of the sys, you know, I feel like I'm the, I'm sort of new coming to the

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block, that kid, I'm like, oh, hey guys.

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Hey guys.

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Maybe, maybe sometimes too naive.

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'cause I don't know the, the relationships that are already in place, but

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I'm, I'm just trying to find my way

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look, may maybe, maybe, maybe that may be maybe the case, but

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you've also already proven your success and to your point on the affiliate,

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affiliate type of stuff, you know, I mean, you know, I'm an affiliate.

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You're an affiliate, but.

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We're actually running the real business, we're actually running our own sales.

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Like you've, how many you say you got 300 or so or so sub

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accounts, you know, that's solid.

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You know, so you've already got a track record.

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So you've got credibility and I think, you know, you definitely

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got something to stand on.

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That's what I feel.

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And just before we start recording, you were mentioning you might

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wanna be presenting at high level.

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I think you totally could.

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Yeah.

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think you've got value.

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I think you know, what you've done is pretty inspiring.

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And like you said, you know, there are a lot of high levelers

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that are starting out and they're doing it for different reasons.

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They might be trying to, you know, make extra money so that they can help

Vit Muller: 00:14:08

their wife with leukemia or you know, those type of underlying reasons.

Vit Muller: 00:14:15

And, you know, you help solve them.

Vit Muller: 00:14:18

You help solve some of those initial learning curve problems related GHL.

Vit Muller: 00:14:23

So well down to what you've done so far, mate.

Orien Daly: 00:14:26

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:14:26

Thank you.

Orien Daly: 00:14:27

It's, it's my, my goal is for business owners to utilize go

Orien Daly: 00:14:32

high level to its full potential

Vit Muller: 00:14:34

Yeah, I love it.

Orien Daly: 00:14:37

yeah, so

Vit Muller: 00:14:38

Like my, like here, he's, here's just a bit of, a bit

Vit Muller: 00:14:41

of a, in intel, weird, weird world.

Vit Muller: 00:14:44

World,

Orien Daly: 00:14:45

information.

Vit Muller: 00:14:46

how I use, how I like my, my model, right?

Vit Muller: 00:14:49

I am, I'm pr I'm a nerd, right?

Vit Muller: 00:14:52

So I'm passionate about taking on different niches,

Vit Muller: 00:14:54

different clients, and it's fun.

Vit Muller: 00:14:56

Gets the, you know, brand juices flowing and it's not

Vit Muller: 00:15:00

scalable, let's face it, right?

Vit Muller: 00:15:01

If you just go after one niche, that's gonna be more scalable.

Vit Muller: 00:15:04

But, you know, that's, if it was just doing it for money, but also

Vit Muller: 00:15:07

doing it for mental stimulation because that's the other currency.

Vit Muller: 00:15:10

One is money.

Vit Muller: 00:15:11

The other is, you know, like, you're, you're like challenging your intellect

Vit Muller: 00:15:16

is, is what, what's fun about it?

Vit Muller: 00:15:19

Where I was going with this is, oh yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:15:21

the model.

Vit Muller: 00:15:22

So whilst I enjoy this, I also know that there are people who cannot afford me to

Vit Muller: 00:15:27

build out stuff in their account, right?

Vit Muller: 00:15:29

So they pay subscription, but they can't afford it.

Vit Muller: 00:15:31

So the big, big shift this year that I'm taking is more educational

Vit Muller: 00:15:36

based, one to many model, right?

Vit Muller: 00:15:38

So you sign up and already have community.

Vit Muller: 00:15:43

I already have, this, workflow automation that sends everybody a weekly, a weekly

Vit Muller: 00:15:48

check, weekly growth checkin email, that's got built in proactive, you

Vit Muller: 00:15:52

know, questions about how they went for the, for the goal that they had

Vit Muller: 00:15:56

last month, and, you know, prompt them.

Vit Muller: 00:15:58

Then they should, you know, let's say it's a week one of the next month and

Vit Muller: 00:16:01

prompting them, saying like, Hey, you know, it's that, you know, it's new month.

Vit Muller: 00:16:06

What are your goals for this month?

Vit Muller: 00:16:08

You should have a goal if you're, if you're serious business owners,

Vit Muller: 00:16:11

everybody should have, you know, goals.

Vit Muller: 00:16:13

You should have your annual goal, but you should also break them down.

Vit Muller: 00:16:16

So now it'd be a good time to sit down, spend an hour, brew a coffee,

Vit Muller: 00:16:19

and have a figure out what it is that you wanna achieve this month.

Vit Muller: 00:16:22

And by the way, if you want, you can click here and let me know.

Vit Muller: 00:16:25

Let us know, and we can try and, you know, try and see what we can

Vit Muller: 00:16:28

do to, to help you reach that goal.

Vit Muller: 00:16:30

Things like that, you know, so community, we've got the emails, which are, which

Vit Muller: 00:16:34

are great 'cause they're, they're just like the automation, right?

Vit Muller: 00:16:36

So you've got baseline, something at the very, very minimum that goes out

Vit Muller: 00:16:40

and reaches out to customers so they don't feel like they're being left out.

Vit Muller: 00:16:43

and then obviously webinars and workshops and education, on, on like

Vit Muller: 00:16:48

practical workshops and education on how they can do this, how they can do

Orien Daly: 00:16:51

Mm-hmm.

Vit Muller: 00:16:52

But I don't have, I. And, and, and, and, and I have,

Vit Muller: 00:16:55

a wide level knowledge base.

Vit Muller: 00:16:57

Yes, I've got that through, through Matt's, Matt's, h approach for, for

Vit Muller: 00:17:01

articles, which is, which is good one.

Vit Muller: 00:17:03

And they keep updating that.

Vit Muller: 00:17:04

and the interactive,

Orien Daly: 00:17:05

yes.

Orien Daly: 00:17:06

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:17:06

Nice.

Vit Muller: 00:17:06

So I think that's pretty good for self-serve and

Vit Muller: 00:17:10

customers can help themselves.

Vit Muller: 00:17:11

And that's, and that's, and that's great.

Vit Muller: 00:17:13

'cause I think that's giving opportunity to those that can't afford it.

Vit Muller: 00:17:17

They've got opportunity.

Vit Muller: 00:17:18

It 'cause it comes down to time or money.

Vit Muller: 00:17:19

Like if you don't have money, well at least you know, you gotta have time.

Vit Muller: 00:17:23

And, and, and, and if you don't have time, you gotta find time.

Orien Daly: 00:17:26

literally, sorry.

Orien Daly: 00:17:27

Just add, that's one of our first videos in our training.

Orien Daly: 00:17:31

It's like, if you have money or time, which ones do you have?

Orien Daly: 00:17:35

If you have both done for you, if you have one or the other, if you have money done

Orien Daly: 00:17:40

for you, if you have time, watch videos.

Orien Daly: 00:17:42

Do it yourself.

Orien Daly: 00:17:43

If you have neither, don't bother.

Vit Muller: 00:17:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:17:47

Well, you've gotta be blunt like that.

Vit Muller: 00:17:48

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:17:48

That's, no, there's no, other way.

Vit Muller: 00:17:51

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:17:52

These, these are the choices.

Vit Muller: 00:17:53

These are the, sorry, the options.

Vit Muller: 00:17:54

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:17:54

I've, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen and heard too

Orien Daly: 00:17:58

many people think how easy this is and I, no, it really isn't

Vit Muller: 00:18:04

there's so much assets and resources that you gotta

Vit Muller: 00:18:07

build into your GHL in order.

Vit Muller: 00:18:09

If you are a serious about doing sa, like you need all those things,

Vit Muller: 00:18:13

you can definitely leverage by signing up for, for wide level

Vit Muller: 00:18:17

knowledge base, wide level debt.

Vit Muller: 00:18:19

But you still need to think about the bio like the.

Vit Muller: 00:18:24

customer onboarding experience, like your welcome sequence emails,

Vit Muller: 00:18:28

your, you should have videos.

Vit Muller: 00:18:30

Otherwise it's just like, it feels like a bit, you know, weirded, like if you just

Vit Muller: 00:18:34

get a welcome email, it's just text, put videos in there, put your personality in

Vit Muller: 00:18:38

there 'cause they buy into you as well.

Vit Muller: 00:18:40

You gotta build all that out.

Vit Muller: 00:18:41

And that takes time.

Vit Muller: 00:18:43

And which is, this is where, what I like is about what you do is you help shorten

Vit Muller: 00:18:47

that cycle with, with the, AI avatar videos where, you know, because I didn't,

Vit Muller: 00:18:52

I didn't, I wasn't like I was, you know, reading stuff, looking at your stuff

Vit Muller: 00:18:56

before this call, but I didn't know that that is another thing that you also do.

Vit Muller: 00:18:59

'cause I'm in, like I said, I've, I've used hey, hey Jen before, but it's been

Vit Muller: 00:19:04

three years and if you've got it dialed in to a point where you've already

Vit Muller: 00:19:07

done the leg work and we've already got these videos that teaching people,

Vit Muller: 00:19:11

and I can have my face on it, mate.

Vit Muller: 00:19:13

But you know, that's a massive shortcut.

Orien Daly: 00:19:17

Oh, dude.

Orien Daly: 00:19:18

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:19:18

Think about this.

Orien Daly: 00:19:18

Not just that.

Orien Daly: 00:19:19

AI webinars, AI ads, AI onboarding agents, right?

Orien Daly: 00:19:26

We're, we're dialing in the onboarding AI support.

Orien Daly: 00:19:29

we've even, we're implementing AI specifically for our sales processes.

Orien Daly: 00:19:33

So, anytime new lead ops in, we have, we have setters that dial leads.

Orien Daly: 00:19:39

They get the transcript of the AI conversation and imagine that the,

Orien Daly: 00:19:42

the lead says, oh, call me back on on Thursday or send me more information.

Orien Daly: 00:19:45

AI sends it already and it follows up with them on the actual date before

Orien Daly: 00:19:49

the set of calls is done to prompt them to remind them of the call.

Orien Daly: 00:19:54

Same, same thing with cusp.

Orien Daly: 00:19:55

It's, it's like, I love ai, I love, I love what we do.

Vit Muller: 00:19:59

AI too.

Vit Muller: 00:20:00

But here's the thing, and I'd like your take on it.

Vit Muller: 00:20:04

Do you sometimes feel like a little bit overwhelmed?

Vit Muller: 00:20:06

Like where like, is this maybe like a bit scary?

Vit Muller: 00:20:09

I.

Orien Daly: 00:20:10

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:20:10

Always.

Vit Muller: 00:20:11

At the same like, I mean, I'm excited about the opportunity and this is

Vit Muller: 00:20:14

massive leverage from a business sense.

Vit Muller: 00:20:16

Definitely.

Vit Muller: 00:20:18

But like, holy moly, like where are we going?

Orien Daly: 00:20:21

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:20:22

I know.

Orien Daly: 00:20:22

I, I could just be a guy.

Orien Daly: 00:20:23

I could just be a normal dude in my early twenties working in corporate.

Orien Daly: 00:20:27

Like I, I didn't need to do this and I, I didn't need to pull in my, my fiance.

Orien Daly: 00:20:32

And another thing as well, I, I work with my dad.

Orien Daly: 00:20:35

So my dad designed the logo.

Orien Daly: 00:20:37

My dad does my emails, my dad does my design work, all of it.

Orien Daly: 00:20:41

And he came from a, you know, he, he does freelancing now, but he used to do, he

Orien Daly: 00:20:47

used to be a creative director at Colgate and Coca-Cola, so he knows, yeah, yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:20:51

So he knows the thing too about like, I'm like, yeah,

Vit Muller: 00:20:55

You gotta tap into that resource for sure.

Orien Daly: 00:20:57

And, and another thing, so my fiance's dad is a

Orien Daly: 00:21:01

investor, so it's like we were, we were given the resources to win.

Orien Daly: 00:21:07

It's just, we decided to take it and take advantage of it.

Orien Daly: 00:21:10

And I'm not, you know, we we're very

Vit Muller: 00:21:13

Look, that's the, that's the smart thing to do.

Vit Muller: 00:21:15

You know, if you've got access to these resources, these

Vit Muller: 00:21:17

opportunities, you should definitely take, you know, take up on those.

Orien Daly: 00:21:21

It's frustrating when people don't, that's, that's the annoying

Orien Daly: 00:21:23

thing that like, drives me insane.

Orien Daly: 00:21:26

'cause I know there are many people in positions.

Orien Daly: 00:21:29

I speak to them.

Orien Daly: 00:21:30

They wish they could be in, you know, I've got colleagues and friends who,

Orien Daly: 00:21:33

who live comfortable lives and they could be doing more with their lives.

Orien Daly: 00:21:35

But that's, that's what I think.

Orien Daly: 00:21:37

And, obviously they're, they're doing what they wanna do and it's

Orien Daly: 00:21:40

just, they complain to me about not being happy with where they're at.

Orien Daly: 00:21:43

So.

Vit Muller: 00:21:44

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:21:44

And also, I mean, let's set things straight.

Vit Muller: 00:21:46

Yes.

Vit Muller: 00:21:46

Your dad maybe have gave you, accelerate some of the graphic

Vit Muller: 00:21:49

stuff based on, you know, this and that, and your partner, but.

Vit Muller: 00:21:54

The all didn't just fall in your lap.

Vit Muller: 00:21:55

You, you had to do the, the hard work too.

Vit Muller: 00:21:57

Right.

Vit Muller: 00:21:59

So, so I'm just saying like, if you guys are listening and you're like,

Vit Muller: 00:22:02

ah, yeah, well he had it too easy.

Orien Daly: 00:22:03

He did.

Vit Muller: 00:22:04

look, may maybe he had a few shortcuts, but at the end of

Vit Muller: 00:22:06

the day, like, you know, if he, if he was lazy and had these shortcuts, he

Vit Muller: 00:22:11

wouldn't be able to get where he is.

Vit Muller: 00:22:12

'cause he still need to put the hard yards.

Vit Muller: 00:22:14

You need to put the daily reps.

Orien Daly: 00:22:15

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:22:16

It's, it's, it's people, you know, people want the results, not the, not

Orien Daly: 00:22:21

the work required to get those results.

Orien Daly: 00:22:24

Like, it's, it's, it really is like.

Orien Daly: 00:22:27

A lot of freaking work, dude.

Orien Daly: 00:22:28

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:22:29

They don't, they don't tell you how hard it is.

Orien Daly: 00:22:31

And I remember going on a call with a lady and she was saying,

Orien Daly: 00:22:35

you know, I was telling her the blunt reality of selling SaaS.

Orien Daly: 00:22:38

You can't just flex your CRM and all of a sudden people are, you

Orien Daly: 00:22:42

know, pulling their checks out.

Orien Daly: 00:22:43

It's like you have to build something unique about yourself.

Orien Daly: 00:22:46

What is your offer?

Orien Daly: 00:22:47

What is your proposals?

Orien Daly: 00:22:48

What is your niche like, who are you and how can you provide them benefit?

Orien Daly: 00:22:52

It's not you, you can't just slap a logo onto your go high level and

Orien Daly: 00:22:56

say, it's my cm, it's my software.

Orien Daly: 00:22:59

Buy it for a hundred bucks or 200 bucks a month.

Orien Daly: 00:23:02

What more value do you add?

Orien Daly: 00:23:03

Everyone's doing that and she's, she, she, she thanked me for that.

Orien Daly: 00:23:07

She's like, thank you for being honest.

Orien Daly: 00:23:09

'cause I hear a lot of people telling me how easy it is, but it's not that easy.

Orien Daly: 00:23:13

But yes.

Vit Muller: 00:23:14

It's not, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:23:15

I think that's where the, you know, some of the affiliates, they're

Vit Muller: 00:23:18

purely just doing the affiliate game, the influencer game are giving

Vit Muller: 00:23:22

high level bit of a bad rep because they get a lot of people on the, you

Vit Muller: 00:23:28

know, sell them on the, on the dream.

Vit Muller: 00:23:29

But the reality doesn't check out the same way.

Orien Daly: 00:23:33

and that's why I did, that's exactly why I did this.

Orien Daly: 00:23:36

That's why I did this because I was sold that dream and, and I, I remember being

Orien Daly: 00:23:42

so mad at my affiliate for so long.

Orien Daly: 00:23:45

'cause he made, he got to 10 K per month and then he got to a hundred thousand

Orien Daly: 00:23:51

dollars a month through affiliates.

Vit Muller: 00:23:53

He probably does nothing else than this

Orien Daly: 00:23:55

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:23:56

to get to that, those type of numbers, 'cause I mean, I, I, I

Vit Muller: 00:24:00

have, you know, like why wouldn't I?

Vit Muller: 00:24:01

Right.

Vit Muller: 00:24:02

I've got an affiliate side, but I'm not actively, I'm not

Vit Muller: 00:24:04

actively doing anything with it.

Vit Muller: 00:24:06

I focus on building stuff from my own agency, which I then

Vit Muller: 00:24:10

offer other agencies to purchase.

Vit Muller: 00:24:12

I'm talking about my profit roadmap modules, my snapshots,

Vit Muller: 00:24:14

which have become quite known in the community for being well

Vit Muller: 00:24:18

documented, but I aside a little plug.

Vit Muller: 00:24:20

but yeah, like, that's what I focus on and you know, like, yeah, of course.

Vit Muller: 00:24:23

Like I've got traffic to those websites, so why wouldn't I have, and I affiliate

Vit Muller: 00:24:27

offer, somebody to sign up and get, you know, get some perks that come with it.

Vit Muller: 00:24:31

But, if I wanted to like.

Vit Muller: 00:24:33

If I wanted to really start making some residual income, like I

Vit Muller: 00:24:37

would have to be on YouTube every day, I would've to do all that.

Vit Muller: 00:24:40

But then that would take my focus away from what I do, and I wouldn't

Vit Muller: 00:24:44

be able to have, I think like, uh, this is may be a bit of a rant, but

Vit Muller: 00:24:48

I think I still prefer the way I do it because I'm actually in the weeds.

Vit Muller: 00:24:53

I'm running my own agency and I'm going through, you know,

Vit Muller: 00:24:55

everything that comes with it, the successes, the wins, the struggles.

Vit Muller: 00:24:59

And so I think I can relate more than if I was just an affiliate and just

Vit Muller: 00:25:05

selling, like just promoting a high level.

Orien Daly: 00:25:07

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:25:08

Yeah, I know.

Orien Daly: 00:25:08

And, and, and, and, you know, it's maybe, maybe in a year's time we're

Orien Daly: 00:25:14

bawling in affiliate money and we, we say something completely different.

Orien Daly: 00:25:17

Right.

Orien Daly: 00:25:17

for now, in my opinion.

Orien Daly: 00:25:21

I'm happy with the trajectory that I'm going.

Orien Daly: 00:25:23

I feel like I'm really helping people.

Orien Daly: 00:25:24

And I, I've even started doing one-on-one coaching with a couple guys and girls

Orien Daly: 00:25:29

who don't, like, they don't, some of them are much smarter than me.

Orien Daly: 00:25:35

They just need someone to speak to and keep them accountable.

Orien Daly: 00:25:39

'cause what I'm realizing nowadays is, is with courses, with ai, with co group

Orien Daly: 00:25:44

coaching sessions, like there's more than enough resources out there for people

Orien Daly: 00:25:48

to achieve what they want to achieve.

Orien Daly: 00:25:50

It's just they're not, they're not doing

Vit Muller: 00:25:52

plenty.

Vit Muller: 00:25:53

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:25:53

You just gotta put put Well, it's, you gotta put the work.

Vit Muller: 00:25:58

But even then, the, the next step to it is also, you gotta be really

Vit Muller: 00:26:02

focused because there's so much, there's so much, and I'm bad.

Vit Muller: 00:26:07

Perfect.

Vit Muller: 00:26:08

Bad example of that.

Vit Muller: 00:26:09

You know, I'm a super OCD, but I'm also a bit of an a, like,

Vit Muller: 00:26:13

I'm super like perfectionist.

Vit Muller: 00:26:14

I'm a Virgo.

Vit Muller: 00:26:15

I'm very much of a perfectionist.

Vit Muller: 00:26:16

And if I go, if I, if I don't have my email cleaned by, you know, end

Vit Muller: 00:26:20

of the end of the day, or if I don't have, you know, my, my design, my

Vit Muller: 00:26:24

graphics, like the way I like it, you know, it just does my heading.

Vit Muller: 00:26:27

but I'm also entrepreneurial and I, and I've got, you know, and I'm

Vit Muller: 00:26:31

interested in lots of different things.

Vit Muller: 00:26:32

So, you know, I've been trying out different vendors, trying

Vit Muller: 00:26:37

out different things, and I'm a perfect example of how not to do it,

Orien Daly: 00:26:41

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:26:41

I mean, it's, it's me too, dude.

Orien Daly: 00:26:45

Like I, I spent, I spent a load of my student loans on buying

Orien Daly: 00:26:51

a load of things I didn't need.

Orien Daly: 00:26:53

When in reality, I should have just sat on the phone, dialed leads, watched

Orien Daly: 00:26:58

boring YouTube videos on how to deliver results, and do that for like two years.

Orien Daly: 00:27:04

Full stop.

Vit Muller: 00:27:05

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:27:06

Just on that note as well, I've, I've got a funny story

Orien Daly: 00:27:08

for you about how I've managed to cure my commitment issues, focus

Vit Muller: 00:27:15

Yeah, go ahead.

Vit Muller: 00:27:16

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:27:16

right?

Orien Daly: 00:27:17

So, so in September, I basically, in September of 2024, I had a

Orien Daly: 00:27:25

job, an online contractor job.

Orien Daly: 00:27:27

I had an agency that I was running, and then I had GHO

Orien Daly: 00:27:30

University that was brewing.

Orien Daly: 00:27:32

It was, it was in, it was in its beta stages, infancy stages.

Orien Daly: 00:27:38

And I was just like, okay, cool.

Orien Daly: 00:27:39

I'm spread way too thin.

Orien Daly: 00:27:40

I need to, I need to figure out something and I need to commit to

Orien Daly: 00:27:42

something and I need to be able to do it.

Orien Daly: 00:27:45

I was going to America in September to meet two potential business partners.

Orien Daly: 00:27:50

one was a cool dude in studies that likes to surf and is very nice.

Orien Daly: 00:27:57

Second one was a guy in his sixties who was one of our clients and was like,

Orien Daly: 00:28:03

was started coaching business together.

Orien Daly: 00:28:05

So one was GHOU, one was, we call it med spa, CEO.

Orien Daly: 00:28:09

So coaching business plus go high level SaaS at the back end.

Vit Muller: 00:28:15

Mm-hmm.

Orien Daly: 00:28:15

and I remember we did a three day sprint with the guy,

Orien Daly: 00:28:18

with the, the med spa guy, and it was just like load of value, seeing

Orien Daly: 00:28:22

if we would work out together.

Orien Daly: 00:28:23

And, and it was on the second day we were having dinner and he was

Orien Daly: 00:28:27

telling me a story about his life.

Orien Daly: 00:28:30

You know, he struggled, for 20, 30 years.

Orien Daly: 00:28:32

He was alone, you know, he had flings here and there.

Orien Daly: 00:28:34

He was about to get married and then get married until he met his wife.

Orien Daly: 00:28:39

In his fifties he was 60 and he had the most success in his life

Orien Daly: 00:28:46

in those 10 years with her building that med spa to seven figures.

Orien Daly: 00:28:51

And I'm like, oh man.

Orien Daly: 00:28:53

So you were lonely.

Orien Daly: 00:28:55

You were successful when you only met her.

Orien Daly: 00:28:58

And when you committed to her and committed to this business plan

Orien Daly: 00:29:00

and this business proposal, you.

Orien Daly: 00:29:04

Won.

Orien Daly: 00:29:04

You won, you became successful.

Orien Daly: 00:29:07

Oh, okay.

Orien Daly: 00:29:07

Cool.

Orien Daly: 00:29:08

Let me, let me think about that.

Orien Daly: 00:29:09

we also did a personality test, like an official personality test to see

Orien Daly: 00:29:14

how well we'd work in a, in a team.

Orien Daly: 00:29:15

We spent like a grand on that.

Orien Daly: 00:29:16

I'm like, too much money.

Orien Daly: 00:29:18

But we did it and it realized

Vit Muller: 00:29:20

You really took it ground up.

Orien Daly: 00:29:22

Yeah, I know.

Orien Daly: 00:29:23

I'm like, okay, cool.

Orien Daly: 00:29:23

Here's a thousand bucks.

Orien Daly: 00:29:24

Tell me, tell me about myself.

Orien Daly: 00:29:26

And it turned out me and my fiance were perfect fits.

Orien Daly: 00:29:32

Like I was, I was one half where there was, it was like four categories,

Orien Daly: 00:29:38

red, green, blue, and yellow.

Orien Daly: 00:29:40

I was

Vit Muller: 00:29:40

Is it like a disc profile test or

Orien Daly: 00:29:42

yeah, yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:29:43

It was, it was.

Orien Daly: 00:29:43

I was, I was like the, the red and yellow.

Orien Daly: 00:29:46

I love team and I'm, I'm very forth going and she's data driven and

Orien Daly: 00:29:51

super nice and kind and, and loving.

Orien Daly: 00:29:53

So together we work well as a team.

Orien Daly: 00:29:54

I'm like, okay, cool.

Orien Daly: 00:29:55

So we work well as a team.

Orien Daly: 00:29:57

This guy, this guy committed to his wife and he's super successful.

Orien Daly: 00:30:01

I love Alex from Mozy, obviously, you know, his story is very compelling.

Orien Daly: 00:30:06

So, at that night, Friday evening, I decided I was gonna propose to her.

Orien Daly: 00:30:10

I called my parents, I said, I'm getting married, I'm proposing tomorrow.

Orien Daly: 00:30:15

I woke up the next day.

Orien Daly: 00:30:17

I, I, the dad came along with us.

Orien Daly: 00:30:20

The, the investor dad and I, we went for like a four hour walk, asked him

Orien Daly: 00:30:26

if I could propose, and he said yes.

Orien Daly: 00:30:28

And I bought a ring at Walmart, $20 ring, proposed to her.

Orien Daly: 00:30:31

And, it was also my birthday that day.

Orien Daly: 00:30:34

So, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:30:37

Man, congrats man.

Vit Muller: 00:30:39

That's, I love that story.

Vit Muller: 00:30:40

You know, the, the proposal story, it's, you know, when you, when

Vit Muller: 00:30:44

you, when, when it happens, like, the way you want, it's like magic.

Vit Muller: 00:30:48

You know?

Vit Muller: 00:30:49

It's this, it's, it's something that you'll never forget.

Vit Muller: 00:30:51

Like, I proposed my wife

Orien Daly: 00:30:53

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:30:54

on the beach, you know, I bought this ring and I

Vit Muller: 00:30:56

knew like, it's, now is the time.

Vit Muller: 00:30:57

I'm gotta do it.

Vit Muller: 00:30:58

I didn't, I didn't know where I'm gonna do it, how I'm gonna do it.

Vit Muller: 00:31:02

All I knew is I need a rink.

Vit Muller: 00:31:03

'cause that's kind of like, that's what you need.

Vit Muller: 00:31:05

That's like talking about like a sales funnel.

Vit Muller: 00:31:08

What are the steps that

Orien Daly: 00:31:09

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:31:09

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:31:10

buyer needs to take?

Vit Muller: 00:31:11

I knew like at least I need a rink.

Vit Muller: 00:31:13

And then we just walked around on the beach.

Vit Muller: 00:31:15

friend, friend, friend of ours, they invited us.

Vit Muller: 00:31:17

They've got like a beach house.

Vit Muller: 00:31:19

So they invited us for the weekend to stay, stay there with him.

Vit Muller: 00:31:22

And we just walked around.

Vit Muller: 00:31:23

They were showing us a couple of the beaches and then we walked

Vit Muller: 00:31:26

past this one beach at his nice real cliff and these rocks.

Vit Muller: 00:31:30

And I'm like, that's a nice spot.

Vit Muller: 00:31:33

And then we just kept walking past, 'cause I was still scoping.

Vit Muller: 00:31:36

Scoping, right?

Vit Muller: 00:31:38

and then I said to him, because, the girls were behind us like about, you

Vit Muller: 00:31:41

know, 50 meters walking behind us.

Vit Muller: 00:31:43

So they couldn't hear us.

Vit Muller: 00:31:43

I'm like, I just pulled the ring on my pocket.

Vit Muller: 00:31:45

And I said to him like, I'm gonna need your help.

Vit Muller: 00:31:48

He's like, what?

Vit Muller: 00:31:49

And I showed him.

Vit Muller: 00:31:50

Oh really?

Vit Muller: 00:31:51

Oh, yeah, I really, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:31:52

said, what do you have in mind?

Vit Muller: 00:31:54

And I said, you know, that there was rocks where we waited like 10 minutes ago.

Vit Muller: 00:31:56

I think that's a good spot.

Vit Muller: 00:31:58

How can we make it so that we can go back there to take some photos

Vit Muller: 00:32:02

and, you know, record this thing?

Vit Muller: 00:32:04

He's like, oh yeah, leave it to me.

Vit Muller: 00:32:05

I'll let, I'll let my wife know.

Vit Muller: 00:32:06

Like, just that we should have took some photos, whatever.

Vit Muller: 00:32:08

And so they, they, they were both on it at that point.

Vit Muller: 00:32:12

And she was making video.

Vit Muller: 00:32:13

He was taking photos.

Vit Muller: 00:32:15

And then we just went there.

Vit Muller: 00:32:16

And Lucy, my wife, she was standing next to me and we were just

Vit Muller: 00:32:20

getting ready to take pictures, you know, posing for the pictures.

Vit Muller: 00:32:23

It was perfect.

Vit Muller: 00:32:24

And then I just kneel down all these super sharp, hard rocks, you know, like cliff

Vit Muller: 00:32:28

rocks, like, yeah, like, it's like a, like a piece of glass straight into your knee.

Orien Daly: 00:32:34

Nice.

Orien Daly: 00:32:34

Nice.

Vit Muller: 00:32:34

know, you gotta end your, when, when there's more important.

Vit Muller: 00:32:37

Reason for, for it to do it.

Vit Muller: 00:32:38

And, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:39

And so we, we then we did it and, you know, it was, she was crying and we

Vit Muller: 00:32:43

were crying and, yeah, it was great.

Vit Muller: 00:32:45

And then we celebrated the rest of the week and drank some

Vit Muller: 00:32:47

champagne and it was great.

Vit Muller: 00:32:49

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:32:49

So brings nice memories.

Vit Muller: 00:32:51

But, mate, let's, let's go.

Vit Muller: 00:32:53

We, we, we were sidetracking here a little bit.

Vit Muller: 00:32:55

Sorry guys.

Vit Muller: 00:32:55

well, hopefully you can relate.

Orien Daly: 00:32:57

Yeah, go.

Orien Daly: 00:32:58

I mean, it's nice, you know, go high level, like I said, go high level,

Orien Daly: 00:33:01

changed my life and go high level.

Orien Daly: 00:33:03

Gave me this opportunity.

Orien Daly: 00:33:04

I, I wouldn't be where I am, I wouldn't be able to pay for rent.

Orien Daly: 00:33:09

I wouldn't be able to, to, to be able to help the people I help.

Orien Daly: 00:33:13

If, if it wasn't for go high level and we wouldn't be able to be on this

Orien Daly: 00:33:18

podcast, we wouldn't be able to be telling listeners about our stories.

Orien Daly: 00:33:23

Like I'm, I'm forever grateful for the position that I'm in, and I know, I know.

Orien Daly: 00:33:31

This, you know, great responsibility, whatever, you know what I mean?

Orien Daly: 00:33:34

Like, I know the impact that we can have, on this world, on this place, and

Orien Daly: 00:33:38

on the people that utilize high level.

Orien Daly: 00:33:40

I really do.

Vit Muller: 00:33:42

Yeah,

Orien Daly: 00:33:42

So that's my mission.

Vit Muller: 00:33:44

Orian.

Vit Muller: 00:33:45

I, I really love these like, personal inspiring stories and I think there's

Vit Muller: 00:33:49

a value in, in those for sure, for people listening, but I think I.

Vit Muller: 00:33:54

Let's get into some juicy stuff as well, so that, so that we, we, so the

Vit Muller: 00:33:58

guy's got something to walk away with.

Vit Muller: 00:34:00

So let's tap into your, into your skill sets.

Vit Muller: 00:34:03

when you booked in, you wanted to talk about three things.

Vit Muller: 00:34:05

we haven't really dived into it just yet, so I want to make

Vit Muller: 00:34:08

sure, maybe spend the rest of the time on talking about those, if

Orien Daly: 00:34:10

Sure.

Orien Daly: 00:34:11

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:34:11

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:34:11

Setting up GHL correctly onboarding with GHL and ai, with GHL,

Vit Muller: 00:34:16

which one do you wanna tackle first?

Orien Daly: 00:34:18

I think the setup is, is a crucial component.

Orien Daly: 00:34:20

Like it was, I did a master class with go high level with jb.

Orien Daly: 00:34:24

the training will be up in April.

Orien Daly: 00:34:26

24th, 25th, something like that, which

Vit Muller: 00:34:29

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:34:29

Nice.

Orien Daly: 00:34:30

the setup is most crucial.

Orien Daly: 00:34:31

I think the setup and the onboarding components combine, if you have it.

Vit Muller: 00:34:35

the first, it's the first impression

Orien Daly: 00:34:37

Yeah, dude.

Orien Daly: 00:34:37

Like, like, like, oh my gosh, a, a load of the calls I get on with people,

Orien Daly: 00:34:44

they're, they're very much like, Hey, I really want to get clients,

Orien Daly: 00:34:47

but I dunno how to get clients.

Orien Daly: 00:34:48

'cause they dunno how to onboard clients.

Orien Daly: 00:34:49

I'm like, oh wow.

Orien Daly: 00:34:51

So don't even, don't even, you need to know the software in and out.

Orien Daly: 00:34:54

I remember once speaking to a guy who, who was like a day trader and worked a

Orien Daly: 00:34:59

job and wanted to resell, go high level.

Orien Daly: 00:35:01

He didn't.

Orien Daly: 00:35:03

And I knew, I don't know where he is at right now, but from the first

Orien Daly: 00:35:06

impression I thought, cool, you're not gonna win with high level 'cause

Orien Daly: 00:35:09

you need to eat, sleep, and breathe.

Orien Daly: 00:35:10

Go high level, understand it.

Orien Daly: 00:35:13

Understand how it actually provides a business owner value.

Orien Daly: 00:35:17

Right?

Orien Daly: 00:35:17

Many of these guys, oh my goodness, when they start out.

Orien Daly: 00:35:23

You either need to test, run it on yourself, utilize it for your own

Orien Daly: 00:35:25

business, or find a friend or family friend or, or if you have to cold call,

Orien Daly: 00:35:29

I cold call at test your client, get them results, set them up correctly.

Orien Daly: 00:35:35

Do the A two P, do the text, plus do the emails, do the email

Orien Daly: 00:35:38

domains, set up their pipelines.

Orien Daly: 00:35:41

Set up your workflows.

Orien Daly: 00:35:43

Tell them that you're new.

Orien Daly: 00:35:44

Tell them that you're a tester client and that you're trying to build this thing out

Orien Daly: 00:35:47

for them and that you'll do it for free.

Orien Daly: 00:35:48

I, I called it a free pay trial.

Orien Daly: 00:35:50

That's what I did.

Orien Daly: 00:35:51

So my times are free, but I, I couldn't afford the subscription

Orien Daly: 00:35:55

and I couldn't afford the Facebook ads, so they paid for that.

Orien Daly: 00:35:57

So I ended, I ended up making like a thousand bucks a month

Orien Daly: 00:35:59

from them, which is great.

Vit Muller: 00:36:01

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:36:01

Nice.

Orien Daly: 00:36:02

for my first client, I remember using that

Orien Daly: 00:36:04

testimonial for a long, long time.

Orien Daly: 00:36:06

and then that's what you need once you get your first one.

Orien Daly: 00:36:10

It's not, it's not your first client, it's your first testimonial.

Vit Muller: 00:36:14

So if we, if we, just going back to the, to the core question,

Vit Muller: 00:36:17

like in terms of like what, what goes into setting up GHL correctly?

Vit Muller: 00:36:20

Can we go into some specifics?

Vit Muller: 00:36:21

Do you have some recommenda recommended steps?

Vit Muller: 00:36:24

Maybe something out of the ordinary, aside from the obvious?

Orien Daly: 00:36:28

Out of the ordinary.

Vit Muller: 00:36:30

Well, I mean, let's go through the ordinary, like a quick

Orien Daly: 00:36:33

Yeah, yeah,

Vit Muller: 00:36:34

of those may be listening, that might be newbies.

Vit Muller: 00:36:35

So maybe let's cover that.

Vit Muller: 00:36:37

But I also think we have a lot of more, more experienced people and they

Vit Muller: 00:36:40

might still be struggling with set up.

Vit Muller: 00:36:43

what, you know, you, you've been helping a lot of people with that.

Vit Muller: 00:36:46

So what, what are the things that people get stuck on most?

Vit Muller: 00:36:49

Let's go with that.

Orien Daly: 00:36:50

I mean, obviously a ATP's a big one.

Orien Daly: 00:36:53

I see you, you've had Gary on the call quite a few times.

Orien Daly: 00:36:55

I, I use Gary's, my CRM sim.

Orien Daly: 00:36:57

Super cool.

Vit Muller: 00:36:58

Gary is our savior when it comes to that.

Vit Muller: 00:36:59

And this week at the time of recording, were at 28th of March.

Vit Muller: 00:37:03

I just looked at my Facebook and I've been seeing some posts.

Vit Muller: 00:37:08

A lot of people are angry.

Orien Daly: 00:37:11

yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:37:11

two P 10, DOC.

Vit Muller: 00:37:12

There's been some new changes, even even bound who's had his perfect A two P 10

Vit Muller: 00:37:16

DOC recommended step snapshot that's been bulletproof is himself put a post up.

Vit Muller: 00:37:22

He says, we've been testing it on our normal way.

Vit Muller: 00:37:26

That always works.

Orien Daly: 00:37:28

Hmm.

Vit Muller: 00:37:28

Didn't get approved and I've even just for the fun of it,

Vit Muller: 00:37:31

did a submission that didn't follow any of the steps and it got approved.

Vit Muller: 00:37:35

So there's, there's a lot of mass happening right now.

Orien Daly: 00:37:38

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:37:39

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:37:40

And, and, and I had a mentor of mine mentioned to me it's like this isn't

Orien Daly: 00:37:45

actually a white label software.

Orien Daly: 00:37:47

It's not our software because why on earth can these rules?

Orien Daly: 00:37:51

Did you see there's a new AI employee tab in your high level?

Orien Daly: 00:37:54

Now

Vit Muller: 00:37:55

Yeah, it's just been added to the menu.

Vit Muller: 00:37:56

It was in the settings and now it's in there.

Vit Muller: 00:37:58

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:38:00

this is not our, this is not our white label software.

Orien Daly: 00:38:02

This is, this is go high level software now, and we just plastered our logo on

Orien Daly: 00:38:05

it and we're, we're up to their, their.

Orien Daly: 00:38:08

You know, their rulers and their beckoning for, for whatever it is that they choose

Orien Daly: 00:38:12

to change and choose to implement.

Orien Daly: 00:38:14

It's annoying.

Orien Daly: 00:38:16

Really annoying, but it's probably one of the best tools out there.

Orien Daly: 00:38:20

So

Vit Muller: 00:38:21

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:38:21

you, you either adapt with it or you die by the sword

Orien Daly: 00:38:25

and go find another software.

Orien Daly: 00:38:26

So, and yes, the, the A two p, the buying the phone numbers, the gosh domains

Orien Daly: 00:38:34

was a pain in the butt for a long time.

Orien Daly: 00:38:35

Right.

Orien Daly: 00:38:36

Email domains, email deliverability,

Orien Daly: 00:38:38

funnels.

Orien Daly: 00:38:40

Oh man, I, I really, I really struggle with funnels, but once you get through

Orien Daly: 00:38:45

that and you start utilizing it, and you start building these cool, crazy

Orien Daly: 00:38:49

automations and systems in place that work without you having to be in it, what?

Orien Daly: 00:38:55

Right.

Orien Daly: 00:38:56

Like your follow up email sequences to, to get me on and, and to,

Orien Daly: 00:38:59

to providing more information.

Orien Daly: 00:39:00

Perfect.

Orien Daly: 00:39:01

Imagine, you know what I mean?

Orien Daly: 00:39:03

Like.

Orien Daly: 00:39:03

We have, we have SMSs and nurture sequences for our

Orien Daly: 00:39:06

clients that we built out.

Orien Daly: 00:39:08

My show rate is impeccable, like these things, the WhatsApp

Orien Daly: 00:39:13

integration, especially for, for us in, in Europe and, and London.

Orien Daly: 00:39:17

me specifically, like,

Vit Muller: 00:39:20

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:39:20

So the benefits of all these features, yeah, definitely.

Vit Muller: 00:39:23

I think, I think people will get that as well.

Vit Muller: 00:39:26

But just going back to the setup, so maybe we just pick one example, like one subset.

Vit Muller: 00:39:31

So if we look at, okay, let's maybe leave a phone out of it for now 'cause

Vit Muller: 00:39:35

there's some stuff happening, but, email.

Orien Daly: 00:39:38

sure

Vit Muller: 00:39:39

is your recommendation when somebody's trying to set

Vit Muller: 00:39:42

up their email properly on lc?

Vit Muller: 00:39:44

Let's go with lc email though as well.

Orien Daly: 00:39:46

goodness.

Orien Daly: 00:39:47

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:39:47

So email services, don't do it.

Orien Daly: 00:39:53

with my recommendation for emails, I. we actually, how do I say this?

Orien Daly: 00:40:00

We have a third party provider we use.

Orien Daly: 00:40:02

we don't use go high levels emails personally.

Orien Daly: 00:40:05

Right.

Orien Daly: 00:40:06

So that's what I mentioned to you.

Orien Daly: 00:40:07

We, we struggled a lot with email deliverability, so we moved over

Orien Daly: 00:40:10

to, Apollo, no, what's it called?

Orien Daly: 00:40:14

one of those called email services that gets Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:40:17

Instantly.

Orien Daly: 00:40:17

There you go.

Orien Daly: 00:40:18

and we outsource those emails, to a email marketing agency that handles that.

Orien Daly: 00:40:23

Our emails we use internally for our own clients.

Orien Daly: 00:40:26

'cause we don't, we don't wanna burn our domains, right?

Vit Muller: 00:40:29

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:40:29

So like when I'm talking about, I'm not talking about mass called outreach emails.

Vit Muller: 00:40:32

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:40:33

You're definitely gonna use instantly for those.

Vit Muller: 00:40:35

I'm talking about your, you know, your setup for emails, for automations,

Vit Muller: 00:40:39

for emails that, so you can send out emails from high level for newsletters

Orien Daly: 00:40:43

Oh, so our newsletters Oh, okay.

Orien Daly: 00:40:45

Gotcha, gotcha.

Orien Daly: 00:40:45

Gotcha.

Vit Muller: 00:40:46

And automated emails and one-to-one emails from the CRM.

Vit Muller: 00:40:49

That's what I'm talking

Orien Daly: 00:40:50

Okay, cool.

Orien Daly: 00:40:51

Yeah, so very simple.

Vit Muller: 00:40:52

you, so you, you're not using lc email for those.

Orien Daly: 00:40:55

we are using EL email.

Orien Daly: 00:40:56

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:40:56

So we set up the email on the back end.

Orien Daly: 00:40:58

I actually got, I told my dad this, this is fun.

Orien Daly: 00:41:01

my goodness.

Orien Daly: 00:41:01

It was so

Orien Daly: 00:41:03

at the start it was very difficult 'cause Dad struggled a lot with

Orien Daly: 00:41:07

understanding the email backend, the going into the marketing tabs, looking

Orien Daly: 00:41:11

into analytics, seeing how well they performed, seeing if there were any

Orien Daly: 00:41:14

sales from the emails that he sent out.

Orien Daly: 00:41:16

building out the campaigns as well.

Orien Daly: 00:41:18

That was fun.

Orien Daly: 00:41:19

dad had a really fun time creating the templates.

Orien Daly: 00:41:21

do you know the, the email campaign templates?

Vit Muller: 00:41:25

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:41:25

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:41:26

So simple, very easy.

Orien Daly: 00:41:28

Create new, you add, we didn't our, our list, you know, we do a bulk

Orien Daly: 00:41:33

list when we do our newsletters.

Orien Daly: 00:41:34

Dad likes to add a whole load of images, sending them specifically to our YouTube

Orien Daly: 00:41:40

channel or to our community, as the CTA.

Orien Daly: 00:41:43

we don't do any, any launches, any countdowns, any, any real as weekly,

Orien Daly: 00:41:47

we try and send traffic specifically to, to YouTube and community.

Orien Daly: 00:41:50

As well as that.

Orien Daly: 00:41:51

We also do a group coaching call on Mondays.

Orien Daly: 00:41:53

so dad posts that as well, sends and schedules.

Orien Daly: 00:41:57

It's, it's very simple, very simple, very simple and very easy for him to do.

Orien Daly: 00:42:03

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:42:05

And then, yeah, like, like every, like teaching dad was very fun.

Orien Daly: 00:42:09

it, it made it, you know, he watched our content.

Orien Daly: 00:42:12

I sat down with him.

Orien Daly: 00:42:13

I was like, okay, cool.

Orien Daly: 00:42:14

Here's the sender email.

Orien Daly: 00:42:15

Here's the sender name, here's the subject lines that you can AB test at.

Orien Daly: 00:42:19

You know, let's figure this out together, slow and steady.

Orien Daly: 00:42:22

we can segment lists if you want, or we can send it out to everyone.

Orien Daly: 00:42:26

And then every week we sit down and we look at the statistics or look at the

Orien Daly: 00:42:30

open rate, look at the click through rate.

Orien Daly: 00:42:32

And, and now after a month, oh my God, after a month of him doing it,

Orien Daly: 00:42:37

every week he sends me just like, this is how we do, this is the data.

Orien Daly: 00:42:41

This is the

Vit Muller: 00:42:42

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:42:42

Nice.

Orien Daly: 00:42:42

I'm like, oh, thank

Vit Muller: 00:42:43

user, the user experience.

Vit Muller: 00:42:44

So, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:42:44

So when it comes to onboarding and setting up the email, so you, you,

Vit Muller: 00:42:47

you talking about the, the actual use of the emails and the power of it.

Vit Muller: 00:42:51

So once somebody starts to feel confident, that's great.

Vit Muller: 00:42:54

I just wanna go back a step when it comes to the actual setup.

Vit Muller: 00:42:57

So maybe I'll just add my 2 cents of, of, of advice on that one.

Vit Muller: 00:43:00

because I've realized, speaking to, talking to a couple people, they

Vit Muller: 00:43:03

actually don't realize that, I the email, yes, you need to have your

Vit Muller: 00:43:06

own dedicated sending subdomain, but a lot of people just set up one.

Vit Muller: 00:43:11

But there's actually settings where you can actually, you can actually create

Vit Muller: 00:43:14

a bit of a, you can, you can, reduce your risk by adding more dedicated,

Vit Muller: 00:43:20

sending subdomains, and then on the backend, in the settings, you can assign

Vit Muller: 00:43:23

those to different functionalities.

Vit Muller: 00:43:25

So, if you guys didn't know that, right?

Vit Muller: 00:43:28

So if you go to settings, email services, and I'm talking about lc

Vit Muller: 00:43:32

email for this particular thing, right?

Vit Muller: 00:43:33

You set up your dedicated sending subdomains.

Vit Muller: 00:43:36

What you wanna do, what you wanna do is set up about five of them, right?

Vit Muller: 00:43:40

I usually do.

Orien Daly: 00:43:42

Really?

Vit Muller: 00:43:42

I've got the same naming conventions for

Vit Muller: 00:43:44

all our clients, by the way.

Vit Muller: 00:43:45

So we go, we set up three sending sub-domains for workflows, and I

Vit Muller: 00:43:49

usually call them wk, F1, wk F two.

Vit Muller: 00:43:54

Dot whatever the domain is, right?

Vit Muller: 00:43:56

Set those up.

Vit Muller: 00:43:57

And on the backend, in the settings, I assign those three towards workflows.

Vit Muller: 00:44:01

So it actually routes that the traffic is split.

Vit Muller: 00:44:03

So it's 33% on each, or 33?

Vit Muller: 00:44:07

33 30, 33, right?

Vit Muller: 00:44:08

That's, well, it's not a hundred, but you know, you get that it's one, one third

Vit Muller: 00:44:12

of the traffic goes through that sending subdomain, that one, and then that one.

Vit Muller: 00:44:16

Why you wanna do that is if somebody screws up and one of those sending

Vit Muller: 00:44:21

subdomains just gets burned.

Vit Muller: 00:44:24

'cause I don't know, maybe you had a new staff member that's just sent too

Vit Muller: 00:44:27

many emails or just put a, I don't know, put something bad in the email copy.

Vit Muller: 00:44:32

Well, at least now you've, you've, you've spread in the spread in the,

Vit Muller: 00:44:36

the, the traffic across those three.

Vit Muller: 00:44:38

That's for workflows though, especially good use cases for bulk, which is,

Vit Muller: 00:44:42

which should be the, the real one when you're sending out bulk newsletter.

Vit Muller: 00:44:45

So for bulk, again, you might want to have entirely different sending subin.

Vit Muller: 00:44:50

I usually call that one newsletter dot, And then for your one-to-one, which is

Vit Muller: 00:44:54

when you're responding to people through the CRM, I usually have reply dot.

Vit Muller: 00:44:58

So what I'm saying is five of these, and then, and then a six.

Vit Muller: 00:45:02

Number six actually, is one that's a default.

Vit Muller: 00:45:04

One that, that's like a fallback.

Vit Muller: 00:45:06

so that's, that's my, that's my tip, like recommended setup because I really

Vit Muller: 00:45:11

love what they've done, with what the guys at Ghl done on that front.

Vit Muller: 00:45:14

'cause now you can, you can do that and you can have a

Vit Muller: 00:45:17

proper, like a proper, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:45:19

Setup on, on, on that one.

Vit Muller: 00:45:22

yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:45:22

we might, we might need a Did you do a, I don't know if it was you, I

Orien Daly: 00:45:26

think high level just did a, a masterclass on email deliverability as well?

Orien Daly: 00:45:31

Yeah, so

Vit Muller: 00:45:32

Did they cover this?

Orien Daly: 00:45:33

I, I, I dunno, I, I just saw the, I saw the title.

Orien Daly: 00:45:35

I'm like, cool.

Orien Daly: 00:45:36

I need to watch that.

Orien Daly: 00:45:37

'cause emails, emails have been the bane of my existence as well.

Vit Muller: 00:45:41

Okay.

Vit Muller: 00:45:42

I see.

Vit Muller: 00:45:42

Yeah, look, I think, I mean, in the, in the community, there are people

Vit Muller: 00:45:46

that I've learned from, Kristen Richman, she's one of the best ones

Vit Muller: 00:45:49

when it comes to email deliverability.

Vit Muller: 00:45:51

And she says this, you know, like it comes down to both

Vit Muller: 00:45:53

technical and behavioral, right?

Vit Muller: 00:45:55

Technical is, you gotta have your domains properly set up the D, the D

Vit Muller: 00:45:59

mark, the, the SPF, all those records.

Vit Muller: 00:46:02

Well, high level makes it really easy now is when you decide

Vit Muller: 00:46:06

on those sending subdomains.

Vit Muller: 00:46:08

And as long as you got your domain connected with either GoDaddy or

Vit Muller: 00:46:11

CloudFlare, it'll pick up on it and it'll push those DNS records for you.

Vit Muller: 00:46:15

So you don't have to worry about that.

Vit Muller: 00:46:17

So that's done.

Vit Muller: 00:46:18

you know, the other thing is, I don't wanna go into too this topic too

Vit Muller: 00:46:21

much 'cause it sounds like I've gotta do a separate episode that dive in.

Vit Muller: 00:46:25

But, but in a nutshell, if you guys are new to this, you want

Vit Muller: 00:46:28

to have your transactional emails separate from marketing emails.

Vit Muller: 00:46:33

Now the third category would be called email, but that's a whole nother chapter.

Vit Muller: 00:46:37

Let's not talk about that.

Vit Muller: 00:46:39

You're transactional.

Vit Muller: 00:46:40

You want to have a reputable provider go with Google Workspace or Microsoft

Vit Muller: 00:46:44

and then have your real like info@yourdomain.com, you know, there.

Vit Muller: 00:46:50

and then you're gonna set up your subdomains on the

Vit Muller: 00:46:53

back of that same domain.

Vit Muller: 00:46:54

Those are gonna be the subdomains that you gonna link out with your lc email in

Vit Muller: 00:46:58

the, you know, if you go on a high level in your subaccount, you got settings,

Vit Muller: 00:47:01

email services, dedicated subdomains.

Vit Muller: 00:47:03

You set those up, you link those up, and then you assign those towards different

Vit Muller: 00:47:06

functionalities, like those sending subdomains towards workflows, those ones

Vit Muller: 00:47:10

towards book email, which is newsletters and those towards, one-to-one and then

Vit Muller: 00:47:14

the third one, and then the number four is default one, which is a fallback.

Vit Muller: 00:47:17

If and if the, any of the other ones fail, you've got a fallback.

Vit Muller: 00:47:22

So that's technical.

Vit Muller: 00:47:24

Since and in January last year, there was a big rule change from Google, Yahoo and

Vit Muller: 00:47:28

all the email deliver, email providers where now you have to have congruency.

Vit Muller: 00:47:33

So in the past, you could have info@mydomain.com, which be the email

Vit Muller: 00:47:38

address, but the underlying sending subdomain could be based on entirely

Vit Muller: 00:47:43

different, domain and it would work.

Vit Muller: 00:47:46

Now, what Google requires is to prevent sping, is that needs to be congruent.

Vit Muller: 00:47:51

So whatever your email address is, your business email address is for your

Vit Muller: 00:47:54

transactional emails info at, or even like your personal, like vid at, you know,

Vit Muller: 00:47:59

like your representative of the business that@abc.com, descending subdomain.

Vit Muller: 00:48:06

Has to be based off the abc.com.

Vit Muller: 00:48:08

So you can have reply.abc.com and that's congruent.

Vit Muller: 00:48:11

That's fine.

Vit Muller: 00:48:11

And you will land.

Vit Muller: 00:48:12

And there's other things that fall into it, such as requirement to have an

Vit Muller: 00:48:15

unsubscribe link, one click, unsubscribe link now, and bunch of other stuff.

Vit Muller: 00:48:19

But yeah, that all falls under the technical And then behavioral one is,

Vit Muller: 00:48:24

you know, the, the, what you actually send to people, is it what they.

Vit Muller: 00:48:29

Want.

Vit Muller: 00:48:29

'cause if that's not, that's how you know, you get a share

Vit Muller: 00:48:31

fire way to get marked a spam.

Vit Muller: 00:48:33

So that's, that's, that's the first one.

Vit Muller: 00:48:35

Just sending what they want.

Vit Muller: 00:48:36

But then the next, next thing from it is, are they actually

Vit Muller: 00:48:39

opening you on that subject line?

Vit Muller: 00:48:41

Sorry, the first step is for somebody to open a subject based on the subject line.

Vit Muller: 00:48:45

'cause you they see something they want.

Vit Muller: 00:48:46

Right?

Vit Muller: 00:48:47

Next thing is the, but the, the, you know, the, the email

Vit Muller: 00:48:50

copies, like it keeps trickling.

Vit Muller: 00:48:51

It's like a landing page, right?

Vit Muller: 00:48:53

The purpose of the first sentence in email is to sell them on, want

Vit Muller: 00:48:56

to read the rest of the email.

Vit Muller: 00:48:57

so that's behavioral one.

Vit Muller: 00:48:59

Are people opening emails?

Vit Muller: 00:49:00

Are people clicking?

Vit Muller: 00:49:01

Are people replying?

Vit Muller: 00:49:02

And that comes down to content.

Vit Muller: 00:49:04

And the big one comes down to personalization and really.

Vit Muller: 00:49:07

Well, segmented list.

Vit Muller: 00:49:09

Sending, you know, not, not the shotgun approach, but like sending

Vit Muller: 00:49:12

emails that are unique based on the, you know, what their preferences is.

Vit Muller: 00:49:16

And that's where a high level shines.

Vit Muller: 00:49:18

You got all many, all the ma amazing custom fields that you

Vit Muller: 00:49:21

can create to create your buckets, your customs, custom, custom lists.

Vit Muller: 00:49:26

you can now use AI to write the copy in the emails to make it super

Vit Muller: 00:49:29

personalized, and that's where you win.

Vit Muller: 00:49:32

But you gotta, you gotta do it on the back of a really well, good technical setup.

Vit Muller: 00:49:36

Once you've got the technical setup, an part to it is a good warmup.

Vit Muller: 00:49:40

And then after that is just good principles, day to day, keeping your list

Vit Muller: 00:49:43

clean, avoiding shotgun approach, and making sure that whoever you get in on

Vit Muller: 00:49:49

your sub account as a, as a staff member.

Vit Muller: 00:49:51

That they don't have access to be able to do any bulk actions if they don't

Vit Muller: 00:49:57

know what they're, what they're doing.

Vit Muller: 00:49:58

Because, you know, I mean that's the, one of the most important assets.

Vit Muller: 00:50:02

And, you know, I hope you guys are taking notes 'cause this is really important.

Vit Muller: 00:50:05

'cause think about marketing.

Vit Muller: 00:50:08

You have your top of the funnel, middle funnel, bottom funnel type of offer

Vit Muller: 00:50:11

structure, you know, whatever that is.

Vit Muller: 00:50:13

And you, your channels paid organic, you know, called referral.

Vit Muller: 00:50:18

But ultimately all should be funneling into your CRM, which is email.

Vit Muller: 00:50:23

So email is the, is is the bread and butter, that's where your own media.

Vit Muller: 00:50:27

So it's just really is one of the most important ones.

Vit Muller: 00:50:29

And a lot of people do this wrong.

Vit Muller: 00:50:31

They, they just treat the email like, you know, like an afterthought.

Vit Muller: 00:50:37

Like, oh, I need to, I need to push out this offer.

Vit Muller: 00:50:39

I'm running this webinar and then go boom, shotgun, everybody gets the email.

Vit Muller: 00:50:43

Boom.

Vit Muller: 00:50:43

Well good luck to you.

Orien Daly: 00:50:45

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:50:46

No, they, they, they are, it's, it's, and that's, that's what I mean by with

Orien Daly: 00:50:54

GHO University, we need why I'm, I am aware, especially some of our training

Orien Daly: 00:51:01

can be more surface level stuff when we really need like super in depth, in

Orien Daly: 00:51:07

detailed training videos that don't, don't break the minds of the likes of

Orien Daly: 00:51:12

my father who's nearly in his sixties.

Orien Daly: 00:51:14

He needs to be

Vit Muller: 00:51:14

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:51:15

And look, that's a valid point, right?

Vit Muller: 00:51:16

Because if you go straight into the technical, like, which is what I've just

Vit Muller: 00:51:19

went into, you're gonna lose people.

Vit Muller: 00:51:21

So you gotta start them on the surface.

Vit Muller: 00:51:22

But then it's also about acquisition of knowledge and, and, and the confidence.

Vit Muller: 00:51:27

So the confidence will go up as they go through the,

Orien Daly: 00:51:30

the training.

Vit Muller: 00:51:32

So, so then they go further down the rabbit

Vit Muller: 00:51:33

hole into more advanced stuff.

Vit Muller: 00:51:35

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:51:35

Great.

Vit Muller: 00:51:36

Well, we're on the hour.

Vit Muller: 00:51:37

I, I just wanted to, just, go straight to, make sure that the guys who want

Vit Muller: 00:51:42

to learn more, to learn more about.

Vit Muller: 00:51:45

So do you want to, do you wanna explain what we put together, what it is that we,

Vit Muller: 00:51:49

that you wanna offer to the listeners?

Orien Daly: 00:51:51

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:51:51

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:51:51

It's, it's, I mean, we have something at the highlevelexperience.com/ghluniversity

Vit Muller: 00:51:58

So high level experience.com?

Orien Daly: 00:52:00

com.

Orien Daly: 00:52:01

There you go.

Orien Daly: 00:52:01

highlevelexperience.com/ghluniversity.

Orien Daly: 00:52:03

people can gain access to, the bonuses that we have.

Orien Daly: 00:52:06

so we actually give away a, a free 20, free 20 onboarding video so people

Orien Daly: 00:52:10

can get a taste of what it looks like.

Orien Daly: 00:52:13

That we have on offer, as well as a whole host

Vit Muller: 00:52:16

Are these videos the ones that you can, that I can

Vit Muller: 00:52:19

put my own avatar against, or are they, they're gray label, gray

Orien Daly: 00:52:23

the gray label ones.

Orien Daly: 00:52:24

Another Y labels.

Vit Muller: 00:52:25

That's alright.

Vit Muller: 00:52:25

Yeah, that's all good.

Vit Muller: 00:52:26

Just wanted to clarify.

Vit Muller: 00:52:27

So what we know what we're up, we're up for.

Vit Muller: 00:52:28

Okay, great.

Orien Daly: 00:52:29

So people get access to the gray label videos.

Orien Daly: 00:52:32

they can utilize it.

Orien Daly: 00:52:32

They can add it in as a custom menu, like on their high level and, go from there.

Vit Muller: 00:52:37

And then if they want to, then they can sign up.

Vit Muller: 00:52:39

So it's subscription service that allows you, yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:52:42

You wanna unpack that?

Orien Daly: 00:52:43

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:52:43

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:52:44

So for guys who wanna work more closely with us, we've got a series of coaches,

Orien Daly: 00:52:47

training resources, ways in which you can acquire onboard and support clients.

Orien Daly: 00:52:51

we are currently finishing our lifetime sales.

Orien Daly: 00:52:54

So before I'm, before I'm on YouTube, we have a 2K.

Orien Daly: 00:52:57

So the 2K annual fee, it's lifetime.

Orien Daly: 00:53:00

And I'll, I'll give you a special link.

Orien Daly: 00:53:01

So probably for like next, let's say 10 people who sign up on your

Orien Daly: 00:53:04

link, they can get a lifetime deal.

Orien Daly: 00:53:06

but typically it's 300 bucks a month or $2,000.

Orien Daly: 00:53:09

Per year to sign up with us and work closely with us.

Vit Muller: 00:53:13

And so, so can you unpack, so, so does that include the, the

Vit Muller: 00:53:18

ability to, add your own avatar against the videos that you would recreate

Vit Muller: 00:53:23

plus everything else that you do?

Orien Daly: 00:53:25

Yes.

Vit Muller: 00:53:25

Okay, great.

Vit Muller: 00:53:27

Excellent.

Vit Muller: 00:53:27

So guys, if that makes sense, head over to high level experience.com/ghl University.

Vit Muller: 00:53:32

We can find out more about Orion's offer, about the coaching program,

Vit Muller: 00:53:36

but also how you can get access to the onboarding video so that you've got

Vit Muller: 00:53:40

a shortcut on being able to provide your customers that sign up on your

Vit Muller: 00:53:44

level or your version of high level.

Vit Muller: 00:53:47

to learn about how to use it, and which I think, you know, it's

Vit Muller: 00:53:50

about ev it's about leverage.

Vit Muller: 00:53:52

And this definitely sounds like a really good leverage option.

Vit Muller: 00:53:54

So thank you for, for that offer.

Vit Muller: 00:53:56

Orian, by the way, if you head over to that, website

Vit Muller: 00:54:02

highlevelexperience.com/ghluniversity, and you scroll down a little bit

Vit Muller: 00:54:04

more, you get to watch a video version of this episode or listen.

Vit Muller: 00:54:08

and then further down there are a couple of, offers that I provide.

Vit Muller: 00:54:11

One of the big one that, people like is my rebuilding calculator for all

Vit Muller: 00:54:18

the different things that you re-bill for, whether it's sending, you know,

Vit Muller: 00:54:21

a re-billing for SMS, re-billing for calls, re-billing for ai, rebuilding

Vit Muller: 00:54:25

for, Workflow AI, any of those.

Vit Muller: 00:54:27

You've got a nice spreadsheet that you just put your markups

Vit Muller: 00:54:31

and it actually generates a little paragraph that you just copy paste

Vit Muller: 00:54:34

that you can send to your clients.

Vit Muller: 00:54:36

So if it's basically helps you solve a couple of things, but I'll

Vit Muller: 00:54:39

just go with this one example.

Vit Muller: 00:54:41

What it helps solve is.

Vit Muller: 00:54:42

You're getting a client on board and they are asking $10

Vit Muller: 00:54:47

credit, what does that give me?

Vit Muller: 00:54:50

And then you gotta go and figure out, well, what does that give you?

Vit Muller: 00:54:53

Well, it depends which country you're from, because Twilio has

Vit Muller: 00:54:55

different rates that's on its own.

Vit Muller: 00:54:58

but you want to be able to directly say, yeah, what it,

Vit Muller: 00:55:01

what 10 US dollars gives you.

Vit Muller: 00:55:04

It's about this many of SMS, this many of phone calls or this

Vit Muller: 00:55:08

many of this, this, many of that.

Vit Muller: 00:55:10

The, the formula that I've put in the spreadsheet is there

Vit Muller: 00:55:14

to generate that paragraph.

Vit Muller: 00:55:16

So you just copy paste, you can send it to your clients.

Vit Muller: 00:55:18

it just helps you, helps you on that from, because that's one of the

Vit Muller: 00:55:20

ones that I'm big on transparency.

Vit Muller: 00:55:22

And when somebody signs up with us, I wanna make sure

Vit Muller: 00:55:25

that they're well educated.

Vit Muller: 00:55:26

And it's actually really important if you wanna avoid churn,

Orien Daly: 00:55:29

Hmm.

Vit Muller: 00:55:30

that the customers well educated, they understand that the

Vit Muller: 00:55:32

billing and how much, and for what.

Vit Muller: 00:55:36

So that's what that is.

Vit Muller: 00:55:37

So if you, if you wanna get your hands on that one, that's

Vit Muller: 00:55:39

available, it's a free lead magnet.

Vit Muller: 00:55:41

and you get to find out on that one about that one on that page as well.

Vit Muller: 00:55:45

Orian, let's wrap it up.

Vit Muller: 00:55:46

I've got a couple of rapid fire questions and then we'll, we'll go to the end.

Vit Muller: 00:55:50

what, and these are related to high level, so let's go straight into it.

Vit Muller: 00:55:54

Let me just bring this up.

Vit Muller: 00:55:55

One second.

Vit Muller: 00:55:57

Yep.

Vit Muller: 00:55:59

What about high level, originally grabbed your attention.

Vit Muller: 00:56:01

Was it, a specific problem you were trying to solve?

Vit Muller: 00:56:03

Or how did you, how did you,

Orien Daly: 00:56:05

how to make, how to make 10 K per month online.

Orien Daly: 00:56:07

Does that work?

Vit Muller: 00:56:09

Okay.

Vit Muller: 00:56:09

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:56:10

So that goes back to that affiliate, that, that you onto it.

Orien Daly: 00:56:13

Yes, sir.

Vit Muller: 00:56:14

Yeah.

Vit Muller: 00:56:15

Nice.

Vit Muller: 00:56:15

Alright.

Vit Muller: 00:56:16

I love it.

Vit Muller: 00:56:17

Okay.

Vit Muller: 00:56:17

and what, new high of a feature or like a digital marketing tool are you

Vit Muller: 00:56:22

most excited about right now and why?

Orien Daly: 00:56:25

like I mentioned at the start, we're working very hard on

Orien Daly: 00:56:27

AI workflows and AI transcripts.

Orien Daly: 00:56:29

From our, our calls, we do a lot of outbound calls and

Orien Daly: 00:56:32

setting shows and follow ups.

Orien Daly: 00:56:33

So figuring out ways to automate that and then have it so that based on

Orien Daly: 00:56:38

the transcript and the conversation.

Orien Daly: 00:56:40

Your workflow, AI can do the follow up automatically for you on the

Orien Daly: 00:56:44

date or send the email, send the follow up with the information that

Orien Daly: 00:56:47

the, the prospect needs to make a decision to move forward with you.

Orien Daly: 00:56:51

Like that would be awesome.

Orien Daly: 00:56:54

And that's what we're covered.

Vit Muller: 00:56:55

really leveraging ai, across, across the full, sales cycle.

Vit Muller: 00:56:59

I love it.

Vit Muller: 00:57:00

What, what are you looking forward to most in the future?

Vit Muller: 00:57:02

High level future releases and, and why?

Orien Daly: 00:57:06

I've actually not looked at them, which I should.

Orien Daly: 00:57:08

I've got, my team does the, the updates and I just sort of, like I

Orien Daly: 00:57:12

said, I'm, I'm, I'm kinda like the face, but I've got very smart people

Orien Daly: 00:57:16

that do lot of the back and updates.

Vit Muller: 00:57:18

May maybe question for your, for, for, for your wife.

Orien Daly: 00:57:21

Yeah.

Orien Daly: 00:57:21

I get my wife

Vit Muller: 00:57:23

Okay.

Vit Muller: 00:57:24

If you could give one piece of advice to a new high level user to make

Vit Muller: 00:57:27

their life easier when adopting and using high level, what would that be?

Orien Daly: 00:57:31

get your hands dirty.

Orien Daly: 00:57:33

Like don't be afraid to get your hands dirty.

Orien Daly: 00:57:35

really experiment.

Orien Daly: 00:57:36

Play around with the software, build your workflows out, and be careful

Orien Daly: 00:57:41

when you buy a snapshot, because if you don't know high level and you buy an

Orien Daly: 00:57:46

overcomplicated snapshot, you've just, I had a, I had a, a guy who signed

Orien Daly: 00:57:51

up, he called it a digital garbage.

Orien Daly: 00:57:53

You

Vit Muller: 00:57:54

Mm-hmm.

Orien Daly: 00:57:55

it once and you, you throw it away and you never end up using it.

Orien Daly: 00:57:57

It goes into a closet just like your books on your bookshelf.

Orien Daly: 00:58:00

After you read it, it never gets touched.

Vit Muller: 00:58:03

From what I'm hearing from people, it's,

Vit Muller: 00:58:06

it's that it's buying snapshot.

Vit Muller: 00:58:08

It's, it's, it's the, Hey, I've spent so much money on snapshots and I

Vit Muller: 00:58:13

could not figure out how to use them.

Vit Muller: 00:58:15

It's a big problem.

Vit Muller: 00:58:16

It's a big problem.

Vit Muller: 00:58:17

What helps solve that problem is making sure that you buy snapshots that are

Vit Muller: 00:58:21

well documented so that when you do buy them, you've got a guideline and

Vit Muller: 00:58:27

you can learn and you can actually learn faster about high level by

Vit Muller: 00:58:32

having a good snapshot from somebody that has a really good documentation.

Vit Muller: 00:58:37

so actually that you do that, there are some really good vendors.

Vit Muller: 00:58:40

I'm one of them.

Vit Muller: 00:58:41

I would like to think so.

Vit Muller: 00:58:42

I've got some really good case studies to prove it.

Vit Muller: 00:58:44

so you go check it out.

Vit Muller: 00:58:46

but yeah, overall, like, and, and also on the same token, if you just

Vit Muller: 00:58:50

wanna like learn yourself and not have a snapshot, but then later on when

Vit Muller: 00:58:55

you wanna leverage for your agency, you should build your own snapshot

Vit Muller: 00:58:58

because that's how you leverage, right?

Vit Muller: 00:58:59

But my tip of recommendation is once you build it, and here's my process, right?

Vit Muller: 00:59:04

I built snapshots.

Vit Muller: 00:59:05

My process is I, I visually map it out to have a real

Vit Muller: 00:59:09

clarity on what I want it to do.

Vit Muller: 00:59:11

Then I build it, you know, I figure out what are the data data points that I

Vit Muller: 00:59:15

would need to gather that's gonna govern how many custom, additional custom fields

Vit Muller: 00:59:19

I'm gonna build, and what types, how many customer values and trigger links,

Vit Muller: 00:59:23

whatnot, that trickles down into building workflows and, and all that, right?

Vit Muller: 00:59:26

So I do that, and then you test it as a, is an MVP, is it working great?

Vit Muller: 00:59:30

And then you want expand on it.

Vit Muller: 00:59:32

But here's my tip to you.

Vit Muller: 00:59:33

If you're looking at, and to you listening, I mean, and, and you

Vit Muller: 00:59:36

maybe yourself, I don't know if you need my tip, but, is once you've

Vit Muller: 00:59:39

done that stage, please do not go snapshot it out and start selling

Vit Muller: 00:59:44

it to other agencies what you want.

Vit Muller: 00:59:48

Not not because like I wouldn't want you to, but because you're gonna fail.

Vit Muller: 00:59:53

It's not gonna work.

Vit Muller: 00:59:54

'cause it's the same problem, right?

Vit Muller: 00:59:56

You're gonna be like everybody else, just selling snapshots, not providing

Vit Muller: 00:59:59

any resource, any, any support.

Vit Muller: 01:00:01

Please do this.

Vit Muller: 01:00:02

Go document the heck out of it.

Vit Muller: 01:00:04

Like I document my snapshots in Clickup and I document.

Vit Muller: 01:00:08

The way I start my documentation is I document every single, every single

Vit Muller: 01:00:14

technical, like what's under the hood.

Vit Muller: 01:00:16

Every single asset, every single tag has its own dedicated clickup

Vit Muller: 01:00:20

page explains the purpose of thet.

Vit Muller: 01:00:23

How does the tag get removed?

Vit Muller: 01:00:24

How does the tag get added?

Vit Muller: 01:00:26

And why?

Vit Muller: 01:00:27

I document every single workflow, every single custom field, everything.

Vit Muller: 01:00:30

And then with clickup, you can actually interlink things.

Vit Muller: 01:00:33

So when I'm documenting a tag, I then reference a workflow that adds the

Vit Muller: 01:00:37

tag, for example, and you click on that takes you to another Clickup page where

Vit Muller: 01:00:40

you can learn about the workflow, the purpose of the workflow, how that works.

Vit Muller: 01:00:44

Now, here's the beauty about that.

Vit Muller: 01:00:46

Not only by documenting it this way, you've got something that anybody can

Vit Muller: 01:00:49

easily like, learn and investigate potential problems because they

Vit Muller: 01:00:53

may be deleted something, whatever.

Vit Muller: 01:00:57

But it's about quality, quality control by documenting.

Vit Muller: 01:01:01

So many times I've actually come up and, and come across a horse in my snapshot.

Vit Muller: 01:01:07

Like I start documenting things and I'm like, oh, hang on a minute.

Vit Muller: 01:01:11

I'm missing this.

Vit Muller: 01:01:12

Do you know what I mean?

Vit Muller: 01:01:12

It's like, it's just self checking your work.

Vit Muller: 01:01:16

So that's what I recommend and, and that's gonna result in much more

Vit Muller: 01:01:20

quality snapshot and full documentation.

Vit Muller: 01:01:23

Now go and sell it.

Vit Muller: 01:01:24

Now you're gonna provide real value to the, to the community.

Vit Muller: 01:01:26

A hundred percent.

Orien Daly: 01:01:27

Exactly.

Orien Daly: 01:01:29

Beautiful.

Orien Daly: 01:01:29

Quality.

Orien Daly: 01:01:31

Quality, quality, quality, quality.

Vit Muller: 01:01:33

Or Orian.

Vit Muller: 01:01:34

Thank you so much, man.

Vit Muller: 01:01:35

It's been, it's been a pleasure having you on the episode today.

Vit Muller: 01:01:38

is there any last piece of advice you'd like to say?

Vit Muller: 01:01:41

Anything on?

Vit Muller: 01:01:43

anything last you'd like to say?

Orien Daly: 01:01:44

Yeah, just keep going.

Orien Daly: 01:01:45

High, high level, high level is the way it can be frustrating, but keep it going.

Orien Daly: 01:01:50

Follow through and find people who believe in you as much as you believe in yourself.

Orien Daly: 01:01:55

So,

Vit Muller: 01:01:57

I love it.

Vit Muller: 01:01:58

I love it.

Vit Muller: 01:01:58

Thank you, Orian.

Vit Muller: 01:01:59

That's great.

Vit Muller: 01:02:01

guys, thank you as well.

Vit Muller: 01:02:03

Thank you for, listening to today's episode.

Vit Muller: 01:02:05

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Vit Muller: 01:02:08

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Vit Muller: 01:02:11

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Vit Muller: 01:02:13

or your SaaS with high level, please go to high experience.com.

Vit Muller: 01:02:17

Thank you, and have a great rest of your day, everybody.